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Boosted Performance 06-25-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1790331)
Exc results, nice and smooth. But I wouldn't call that 9psi. It's more like 10... It does drop in the top end and that's where our cares make the most power, so if it would have held the 10psi up top this would have yielded close to 525 IMO. Good Job Sasha!

Thanks! I was looking at peak power and what boost pressure I land at if I was to draw a line straight down. Either way, it is solid power, and the car drives just like stock. The tuner said that if we were to maintan 10psi we would get to 530+..but that is just a guess.



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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 1790405)
We have an auto that will give a run for your money on 91 OCT LOL .

Good results, Congrats

Sam

Thanks Sam. I am sure there are a lot of faster cars out there than this. This however is just the tip of the iceberg, and the turbo in reality is still sleeping. I am sure you would agree that the billet wheels don't even wake up till 20+ psi.This car is also a DD during the summer, so things were kept conservative, to a degree. The 67mm turbo would have yielded even more power at the same boost level as well. In time I guess, once people start building these engines we will really see this thing shine with the larger turbo and a 1.32a/r housing.




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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 1790448)
So, I'm interested but now I have a Question.

You had to install a manual boost controller.

Will the kit come with that part?

If not, what power should we expect from the kit that will be shipped?


The kit will come with all springs for the wastegates. So, the end user can select whatever combination they wish, to run whatever boost level they desire. The boost controller will ensure that the boost does not fall off a bit at the upper rpm range.




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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1790450)
These people just did gtm a BIG favor, by insulting a nice chunk of Z owners and sending business right to gtm. :tiphat:



:bowrofl: ....really, so people can't make a joke anymore? If one finds that offensive then I feel sorry for you.

XwChriswX 06-25-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1790480)
The kit will come with all springs for the wastegates. So, the end user can select whatever combination they wish, to run whatever boost level they desire. The boost controller will ensure that the boost does not fall off a bit at the upper rpm range.

So this is a work-around, but not a 'solution' to the problem... Do we know the root cause of the boost drop at higher RPMs? (Forgive my lack of knowledge if it's something widely known)


:bowrofl: ....really, so people can't make a joke anymore? If one finds that offensive then I feel sorry for you.

Instead of feeling sorry for insulting half of the potential 370Z community, just understand that there are 7AT's boosted as well with similar numbers, and not promoting a perception of inferiority would be a good idea. :ugh2:

McNeil370 06-25-2012 03:54 PM

one thing is for sure, that with this kit youll be baking plenty of tires :eekdance:

Boosted Performance 06-25-2012 04:00 PM

As the exhaust back pressure increases (with RPM's) the plunger at the bottom of the waste gate is exposed to it. This works with the spring and opens the plunger/waste gate more as RPM's rise. The spring in the waste gate also gets hotter as exhaust temperatures rise, increasing spring elasticity, making it easier to compress.

This is why we have the boost controllers. As the timing was increased the drop in boost increased a bit as well. This is just the nature of a turbo system. The boost controller also helps in spooling the turbo a bit faster. You will find that most cars out there with a turbo system do have a boost controller of some sort.

XwChriswX 06-25-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1790518)
As the exhaust back pressure increases (with RPM's) the plunger at the bottom of the waste gate is exposed to it. This works with the spring and opens the plunger/waste gate more as RPM's rise. The spring in the waste gate also gets hotter as exhaust temperatures rise, increasing spring elasticity, making it easier to compress.

This is why we have the boost controllers. As the timing was increased the drop in boost increased a bit as well. This is just the nature of a turbo system. The boost controller also helps in spooling the turbo a bit faster. You will find that most cars out there with a turbo system do have a boost controller of some sort.

Thanks for the info. :tiphat:

Boosted Performance 06-25-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1790491)
Instead of feeling sorry for insulting half of the potential 370Z community, just understand that there are 7AT's boosted as well with similar numbers, and not promoting a perception of inferiority would be a good idea. :ugh2:

It was a joke man, not an insult. Are people that uptight these days? At no point did I say that this is an inferior kit either..I just stated the advantages over some other systems. Let's not get crazy here.

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 1790496)
No auto option AND Canadian.. Two strikes against you.. :)

:bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1790507)
No offense taken, just trying to help by letting you know that insulting people is very bad business. Please by all means carry on...:icon17:

I appreciate it..:tup:

jpritche 06-25-2012 04:11 PM

Back on topic. These numbers are GREAT. Congrats.

XwChriswX 06-25-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1790545)
It was a joke man, not an insult. Are people that uptight these days? At no point did I say that this is an inferior kit either..I just stated the advantages over some other systems. Let's not get crazy here.

It's not that people are uptight, it's just why even mention the 'type of people' who buy one option vs the other when it doesn't bear any influence on your kit, or it's potential numbers. (Which were very good)

It's not that you were saying one kit was inferior, it was the statement about AT drivers being more interested in baking rather than turbo's... Whether or not you meant to insult them, like it was said, it's the internet, perception is reality. If someone perceives you insulted them, the damage is already done..

wheee! 06-25-2012 06:02 PM

Wow, a lot of sensitive people out there...

I saw this build in action at different points and then again at the dyno. The smooth spool, solid power and a real good tune made this the kit for a lot of garage mechanics to self install and reliably create gobs of power that won't blow your bankroll, or engine.

Awesome work to all the innovators out there and special "hats off" to James and Sasha for enduring all the trials and tribulations of bringing something totally unique to our community!

I highly recommend this kit to any DIY'er with a basic toolbox and a free weekend...

just my :twocents:

b1adesofcha0s 06-25-2012 06:13 PM

Great numbers from the kit! :tup:

I do think people are overreacting a bit. I drive a 7AT and I actually thought it was pretty funny :icon17:

Boosted Performance 06-25-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SharpByCoop (Post 1790779)
LOL!!!

I'm not only good at baking, I clean clocks fairly well, too. :hello:

Super numbers, good build. Keep it up!

Coop

I am glad that at at least one person can see it as a joke, and build on it..:tup:

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 1790788)
Enough of u 6MT tards sounding off...

Boosted what's the pros and cons of your single turbo vs other companies twin turbo setups


Well, I don't think it is fair to compare it to the supercharger kits, so that is off the list right off the bat. The torque with the supercharger kits usually stays lower, and the area under the curve is also lower on average.

The "other" single turbo kit is just too far from the engine, spool is also slower as a result, and as a result power is limited.

TT kits are great, and do provide ample of potential for a stock or built block. This has been proven and there is no arguing that. The advantage of this kit over that is that it is very easy to install and take half the time (cost). It is also easy to maintain because all parts are easily accessible.

I changed the turbine housing on this kit couple of days ago to a larger one (to allow for better flow) and even with the hot exhaust it took only about an hour. With things cold, it would be about half that. This for example is the only thing one would have to upgrade if one is to build the engine and go for more power. Wastegates are also easy to get to and the springs can be changed without ever removing them from the car.

The kit also comes with an oil cooler, larger than competition standard injectors (750cc vs 600cc), and larger than competition fuel pump (340lph vs. 255lph)

Disadvantages....at this point a customer can only use the F.I exhaust because this is what the down pipe was built to work with. In time others will come available. The kit does not fit the a/t transmission car. Other than that, I can't think of anything else. Some may consider the removal of the crash bar a disadvantage as well. The FMIC weighs more than the crash bar, so it is a substantial amount of aluminium there.


I should also mention that you don't have to remove the washer fluid reservoir, there is nothing to drill, nothing to tap. It really is a true bolt on kit.


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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1790800)
Also keep this in mind, with they way they insult people there won't be any future ones either. What keeps a business going, is a good product, good customer service and word of mouth.

Can you please move on. Everybody has gotten over it except you. I am not sure if you are going to be at a disadvantage if I lose a couple of customers....last time I checked there is only one person on the payrol here...and that is me. If it brings my business down...I guess I will just have to live with it.

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1790803)
:tiphat:

It was meant as an over-the-top joke. Sorry yall were offended. :ugh2:

:tup:


To the rest...thank you for the support. I am looking forward to working with a lot of you on a kit taliored to your needs. Should have a lot of happy customers once these start moving out the door.

98intrigue 06-25-2012 06:21 PM

Sasha, thank you for bringing a well put together, somewhat of an easy install, single turbo option to the 370Z community. Had your kit been around a year ago, I would still own my 370Z.

98intrigue 06-25-2012 06:36 PM

I also want to point out that people should not be scared of purchasing this kit without owning an FI exhaust. Any exhaust shop can fab something from any exhaust to the kit's 3" downpipe for $50-200.

blackonorange 06-25-2012 06:39 PM

Great guys and great kit , unreal power. Sasha was great meeting you as well , I owe you a case of beer.

Boosted Performance 06-25-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1790897)
I also want to point out that people should not be scared of purchasing this kit without owning an FI exhaust. Any exhaust shop can fab something from any exhaust to the kit's 3" downpipe for $50-200.

Very true, and this is why I made the down pipe as long as possible before spliting in to a reverse Y-pipe. So yes, an exhasut shop would be able to mate this up to any exhaust in no time.


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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1790902)
Great guys and great kit , unreal power. Sasha was great meeting you as well , I owe you a case of beer.

Good to meet you as well...don't worry about the beer....not much of a drinker here.


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