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GTM Performance Engineering: VQ37VHR Engine Build 700HP Power Package
As this platform gets more mature, more and more people go with forced induction. So far, there has been a lot of success and we know that boost becomes very addictive very fast. Usually the natural progression is to build the engine and extract more power out of the car. Arguably, the VQ37VHR engine has proven itself to be a fairly reliable engine and even though we don't require an engine build when customers go FI, it is the natural thing to do when going for big power.
We intend to share this build thread to document what it takes to bring your force fed car to the next level. In this thread, we will be discussing and sharing what is involved in doing so and the supporting mods needed to make 700HP reliably. Stay tuned and enjoy the show. The Patient This vehicle we will be using as a case study is a little unique since the engine failed while 100% naturally aspirated with some mild breathing mods. The customer contacted us to do our 700hp package which involves building the engine and installing a twin turbo setup. By using this car as an example it shows that even with simple breathing mods you can still have catastrophic failure. Equipment on the car at its arrival Stillen Underdrive Pulley Stillen Gen3 Intakes Fast Intention HFC's Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers Custom 2.5" cat-back exhaust GTM 700HP Power Package Components GTM Stage 2 Twin Turbo Kit GTM Stage 1 Short Block GTM Stage 1 Cylinder Heads Aeromotive 340lph Fuel Pump Bosch EV14 760cc/min Injectors GTM Test Pipes GTM Upgraded MAF Sensors 1000HP OS Giken Twin Disk Clutch Heavy Duty Concentric Slave Cylinder for OS Giken HKS EVC VI Electronic Boost Controller GTM Custom Dyno Tune Phase 1: Engine Removal Since we are doing a twin turbo and an engine build at the same time, it makes good sense to drop the engine. After pulling the motor, we saw that it was completely unsalvageable. It is truly amazing how much damage that a catasrophic engine failure can cause. The block was completely destroyed, the starter was bent in half and the flywheel bolts were completely sheared off. Remember, this was an NA engine with breathing mods only. Here are some pics of the aftermath. http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170477.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170479.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170488.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170492.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170493.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170494.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170495.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170873.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170875.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170876.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170880.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170881.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170888.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170889.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170890.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170891.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1170964.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/P1190157.jpg |
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How does that happen ???? Wow !!
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Was the car tuned? Maybe poor tuning led to its demise?
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Any ideas on what happened? That is a lot of damage to happen to an untuned car with just bolt-ons. Seems like there is some info missing.
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wow crazy. hard to believe thats just bolt ons
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But looking forward to waht you all are going to do to get it to the 700Hp level! |
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I think we all wanna know what really happened. Makes me extremely concerned about bolt ons on my z. Subd
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This would lean the A/F out drive the car hard like this would be just asking for it. |
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+1 for more information on what led to engine failure in the first place. Just goes to show you that the couple hundred bucks for a tune is well worth it.
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A lean AFR wouldn't cause that much damage. At worse, it would melt a few things. If the engine was pinging, it would have pulled timing until the pinging stopped. Unless he threw some 87 octane in there and went for a very very spirited run, but even then I don't think "that" much damage would be done.
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Epic fail wow
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They only way you will find out that info is if the owner post himself. Like you said he could have put some 87 in there and beat the piss out of it. Either way you can tell from the picture's detonation. Maybe a 50 shot to lol This car blew up. I am very curious to see the results to have some idea where my car will fall. |
Holy sh*t ! What the hell happened to the thing. Did he forget to up shift? Fascinating thread though, can't wait to see what you guys come up with.
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From the pic of the back of the crank it looks like some bolts came out and the others sheared off, probably under a load at high RPM's causing the engine to instantly overspeed and blow before the rev limiter could catch it.
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Would a mishift from 3rd to 2nd at redline do this much damage?
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Looks like he had too much NOS!!!
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I'll guess overreved/mishift also
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:icon18: This is my guess. |
Pulley... Sam did warn of this before, with the aftermarket ones having no dampener...
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All I can say is OMG! Subbed as well............
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In for updates. Sad to see an NA car go out like that.
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This looks more like over revving with bad AFR's and detonating. Causing combustion too early in the stroke can and will cause catastrophic failure. Google and educate yourself. At least the car isn't getting scrapped, GTM FTW... And the owners wallet. |
Before this build thread goes any further I think everybody wants to know what really happened to this engine.
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4 days and still no clue what happened? WE WANT DETAILS! I am still refusing to believe this happened just by driving an untuned car with bolt ons.
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