S&R Performance single build about to begin!
 

Well the nitrous kit went away. This will be S&R Performance's first 370 auto build. The car will be going to Tampa Fl. on Monday and the build will begin soon after. I will keep updates as I receive them. Hopefully with lots of pics too. The turbo will be a Precision 6266 with Turbosmart gate and bov.
This is exactly what my setup will look like.
I'm not gonna say what the horsepower numbers are at this time but I do have an idea what they will be.

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IN... good luck. pic's, videos, number please

Intake piping over hot side is a bad idea

You get the prize for first negative comment! I already talked to them about that and the intake temps on both sides are the same. So bring on the next hater comment. :D

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I agree. Good luck and enjoy!

Not hater. Talking to Isamu about the same issue with his build.

I'd love to see what conditions they measure iat's under.

Anyone who has worked with FI can spot it. Might check with 98intrigue about spotting these before it's an issue.

It was a suggestion. :ugh2:

Atleast you got a prize!

True, his 40th went boom now he has a viper.

Defensive much?

And yes, I'd ask the shop for more clarification where they're taking IATs. I'd fully expect some heat transfer to occur on the hot side intake before it hits the engine.

I have been working with f.i. For many many years and yes it was the first thing i had a issue with and they tested this at long idles and many hot conditions ( Tampa Florida ) dyno and street conditions and have had no issues as far as I know. If someone can prove this wrong please chime in.

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As long as you're satisfied with the shop's proof, no one else will care enough to "prove" anything. Just make sure you are convinced.

Not to rain on your parade or be negative or anything of the sort, but the original builder who did 98intrigue's single setup had "extensive experience" as well. If you haven't, it is definitely worth reading through to see where they had problems and the solutions they came up with.

I'd read this...http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...urbo-370z.html

Just sayin'

But it's your car, and if you're confident they are competent, then by all means go for it.

Let me guess before I open it....gasoline? And matches?

If you're goIng to say somethIng about someone's car blowIng up be more clear about I really lIke to know what you mean?

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Based on OP prior build...

I think its this:


https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...10frfaI2xhdmvt

Huh? Are all the capitalized I's supposed to be indicative of something?

Completely different reasons for failure, but a good read nonetheless

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...urbo-370z.html

You may also note my advice/fear-mongering/hate/flaming early in that thread.


It's important to ensure the shop is vetted properly. S&r has one car with the design running around, and even a horribly designed system will take it's time to fail.

Man sure is alot of talk but no proof of nothing. If you don't have proof than stop being a troll.

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Yea I cant see how that intake runner sitting right next to that turbo will have no effect on the intake temps on that side. Im no expert tho.

If you guys would like to lay out any specific questions, i'd be happy to address them. We've got several HR builds under out belts now. We've got the first hand experience to answer the questions so there is no need to speculate or assume of what might to what.

there is a method to our madness and we only do what works and what we see perform.

^^^^^ Thanks for dropping in on this ^^^^^ I would not do this if i did not have the up most confidence in these guys. So far they have been great about everything. Marti is very aware of how picky i am and that i am pretty knowledgeable when it comes to turbos. Every time that I have called him he is not had ay problem answering my questions. And he will gladly answer any that I have a long way.

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In theory.. yes... in reality, even stock turbo setups have intake piping running over the hot side or directly over the engine which (theoratically) should capture all the heat off the head.

Your hr builds don't use this method of routing because they don't run dual tb's.


Can you post your iat results?

The problem is more the inconsistency between sides rather than the heat itself.


Air behaves differently at different temps, and you are going to wind up with a good bit of delta

Trying to be helpful and suggesting to you some reading that might prove helpful or give you some additional insight into what all could be involved in a single turbo build is not the same thing as trolling. :shakes head:

Well this is interesting ....

To keep this in line the questions are:
-How are you dealing with the heat from the turbo not getting into the intake piping?
-How are you measuring IAT?
-What testing has been done, besides idle & dyno tuning? Not going to say, oh no 2 year product see the door, but how long have cars been running with this design and any issues?

Marti told me the intake runners are the same length. Im sure he will drop in here again and verify what i have already asked him.

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This might help.
http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4c996-661b-c230.jpg

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The fact that they are the same length won't save you if they are exposed to different heat sources. The car can't adjust for this automatically and it can't be tuned for it because it will vary wildly.


To do this "right" you should be going to a single tb.

Hi i got over 26000 thread responses and Im not a troll. Lol

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You know , I may be way out to lunch but it appears that this wouldn't have much leas charge piping then my STs kit ....

I hope your build works out for you.

Red, Dreamer, and Spikuh were just trying to help you with your build BUT Valpo never asked for help. So, we should just let him do what he pleases with his Z. If it blows up on him, it'll be his issue to deal with.

OP, Good Luck with your build.

It seem to be more negatIvIty than help but maybe I read It wrong. But when i state that i have already addressed these issues that have been brought up at that point it becomes criticism.

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I am just curious about all the capital "I" that are in your post. Any reason?

P.S.- Good luck on your build OP, and like a few people have said, if you have any questions about it ask Ryan(98intrigue). He probably has better insight than anybody since he had so many problems with it. Also, Isamu is currently in the process of a single turbo, you could ask him also.

The guy you are referring to i believe had a completely different build than this one.
Oh and the capital I are from me talk texting. I don't know why but sometimes it puts some letters in capitals sometimes. Lol

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It's just stuff to think about before you drop $10-15k on a setup.


Not intended to be anything but food for thought.