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The Dimer 05-28-2012 09:15 AM

Hey Sam, what psi are you guys running on this build?

SAM@GTM 05-28-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1741301)
Hey Sam, what psi are you guys running on this build?

11 PSI

Sam

G37Sam 05-29-2012 02:08 AM

Why didn't the owner opt for a TT kit instead? Didn't this guy achieve similar goals: http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...tq-11-psi.html

kdo2milger 05-29-2012 02:17 AM

wow, i had to rep you for all the great pics!

now for some vids?!?

SAM@GTM 05-29-2012 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 1742324)
Why didn't the owner opt for a TT kit instead? Didn't this guy achieve similar goals: http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...tq-11-psi.html

This is a different customer. This is his first FI system, now as for why not going with a TT setup, I think he wanted to be different.

We still are not sure whether the next phase of the project is going to be our stage 3 SC or twin charger set up .

Sam

fuct 05-29-2012 09:15 AM

all this on the factory 6 spd correct? nothing beefed up but the clutch and CSC, right?

Mike@GTM 05-29-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1742507)
all this on the factory 6 spd correct? nothing beefed up but the clutch and CSC, right?

That's correct. Upgraded clutch and CSC only. The factory 6 speed can hold a serious amount of torque.

The Dimer 05-29-2012 11:24 AM

I pulled one of the graphs from the Stage 2 supercharger press release and one from the link G37Sam posted to compare with this build with the Stage 2 S/C on a stock block and the GTM Stage 2 TT kit all running at 11 psi.

At first glance the numbers are a little disappointing compared to the cost of building a stroker motor, until you actually look at the lines and the power under the curve. You can totally see where the V8 feeling Sam mentions comes from.

I know turbos and superchargers are two different animals, but it's still nice to compare the different options available.

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...S/G42DYNO1.jpg

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...no27000021.jpg

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...REZ/Dyno04.jpg

Z eliminator 05-29-2012 02:12 PM

Plus the stock block had no meth on it either ? thats good for atleast 40 wrhp.
interesting
i would love to know what that setup cost on the 4.2.block with SC and all the toys?
the 4.2 block will out last the stock 3.7 block over the long run.
Z

The Dimer 05-29-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 1743085)
Plus the stock block had no meth on it either ? thats good for atleast 40 wrhp.
interesting
i would love to know what that setup cost on the 4.2.block with SC and all the toys?
the 4.2 block will out last the stock 3.7 block over the long run.
Z

Actually it did. This is the mod list from the stage 2 release.

2008 INFINITI G37 COUPE 6 SPEED MT
-GTM STAGE 2 SC TURN KEY KIT
-SNOW PERFORMANCE METH KIT
-OS GIKEN TWIN PLATE CLUTCH
-GTM 19 ROW OIL COOLER (thermostatically controlled)
-FUJUSTUBO REAR MUFFLER
-GTM Y PIPE
-F/I HIGH FLOW CATS

Nixlimited 05-29-2012 04:24 PM

This is a very impressive setup. Congrats to GTM and the owner for a truly unique build. I have to say, though, that it's hard to justify the cost for this build over the TT kit based on the numbers alone. My guess is that the additional displacement and SC will give this car better transient response than a TT and better very-low-end grunt, but it's clear that the TTs can still meet or exceed its torque from about 4000 RPMs to redline. Of course, judging by the build, I don't think money was an object so it's awesome to see something different. That engine is truly a work of art.

falconfixer 05-30-2012 09:33 AM

Impressive build!

Soooo what's stopping it? those look like stock brake componants.

NitrousZ34 05-31-2012 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 1743085)
Plus the stock block had no meth on it either ? thats good for atleast 40 wrhp.
interesting
i would love to know what that setup cost on the 4.2.block with SC and all the toys?
the 4.2 block will out last the stock 3.7 block over the long run.
Z

Im in on knowing the total cost for the stroker kit also. How would a 4.2 block with FI fair as a DD? Im thinking of doing the GTM TT kit with either a fully built 3.7 or a stroked motor. I know its not ideal to DD a car with that much power and that type of motor but my question is how long would either motor last if it was driven daily, not pushed to the limits, but driven spirited

The Dimer 05-31-2012 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 1746100)
Im in on knowing the total cost for the stroker kit also. How would a 4.2 block with FI fair as a DD? Im thinking of doing the GTM TT kit with either a fully built 3.7 or a stroked motor. I know its not ideal to DD a car with that much power and that type of motor but my question is how long would either motor last if it was driven daily, not pushed to the limits, but driven spirited

Well here's a link to the stage 5 longblock from the GTM website. It has sections listing parts and labor, so I'm guessing this is how much it would cost you for the end product. Could be wrong, though.

GTM Motorsports*::*PERFORMANCE ENGINES*::*GTM Stage 5 VQ35HR Hi-Rev 4.2L Stroker Longblock

Mike@GTM 05-31-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 1746100)
Im in on knowing the total cost for the stroker kit also. How would a 4.2 block with FI fair as a DD? Im thinking of doing the GTM TT kit with either a fully built 3.7 or a stroked motor. I know its not ideal to DD a car with that much power and that type of motor but my question is how long would either motor last if it was driven daily, not pushed to the limits, but driven spirited

The total cost is going to depend on what all else is being done at the same time. Daily driving a stroked engine is no different than daily driving a V8: you don't have to floor it everywhere you go. ;) The nice thing is that the extra torque feels really good when you're off boost. Then when you're on it...well, hang on to your butts. :driving:

A daily driven build will last a long time, even when driven spiritedly. That's the whole point of doing a built motor in the first place. Like it was mentioned in the OP, we set bearing clearances depending on what the car is going to be used for. A daily driven motor build will have fairly tight clearances compared to a full race build. It just won't be quite as tight as OE because you will be making more power. Bearings are the components that wear out on built motors...not connecting rods, not pistons, not crankshafts. That's why it is so important to accurately describe how the engine will be used...ultimately that dictates how the motor will be built.


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