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I noticed some new turbo pics on Sam's "Personal Page". Is GTM going to try to use Mitsubishi turbos to get more competitive in their pricing?? If so how good

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Old 05-19-2012, 10:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I noticed some new turbo pics on Sam's "Personal Page". Is GTM going to try to use Mitsubishi turbos to get more competitive in their pricing?? If so how good of a price are we going to see?? I'm looking forward to seeing where Sam and GTM is going with this!

Here is a pic from his "wall":


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it must be the designer in me but that GTM tag doesnt fit well. i know silly but its too big height wise and too short width wise... it bothers me

buuuut im still dreaming of their TT kit on my nismo..
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Mmmmmmm, Mitsubishi Heavy Industry turbos, huh? Sounds interesting. Especially since those turbos are damn near bulletproof and proven effective!

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Yes, we are working on a little something. We are developing a twin turbo kit using the TD05 MHI turbos with our own turbine housing to fit our existing manifolds as well as water cooled CHRA's.

This kit is in response to the single turbo kits entering the market. We are developing our new twin turbo kit with a focus on simplicity and affordability; the only two advantages that single turbo kits have over our original twin turbo kit. This kit will be less invasive and allow for more factory components to be left intact (crash bar, steering coupler, etc.) With a twin turbo kit on equal footing in terms of simplicity and price, every advantage that a twin turbo kit offers on this platform will make this option a no-brainer choice for someone in the market for forced induction.

On top of all this, we will, as usual offer it in a full turn-key solution as well as offer multiple power levels.

We have two cars here under the knife: one is getting a 16G kit and the other is getting an 18G kit so stay tuned for more information.

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More options, Nice!

I love options.

Mike, what's the down side to this kit vs. your current turn key Twin kits?
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now we're talkin!

side note: i know the only problem for me when looking into tt kits is not the hardware cost, but the install cost... is this kit changing anything that would make it easier on joe blow, or shops that wont require the engine to be dropped to do (why sts's kit appeals to many)
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now we're talkin!

side note: i know the only problem for me when looking into tt kits is not the hardware cost, but the install cost... is this kit changing anything that would make it easier on joe blow, or shops that wont require the engine to be dropped to do (why sts's kit appeals to many)
It looks to me like its just different compressors to lower the cost vs. the Garrett ones. So I doubt its purpose is to ease installation.
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I agree. If they are aiming to use the same gtm manifold, then header removal and drilling/tapping the head will still be needed. I think that is the part people dread the most

I still like the idea of a costly tt version though. No complaints from me on mhi turbos too
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Damn it Mike, how many times do I have to offer my car up as a tester?

Keep up the great work!
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More options ftw!
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More options, Nice!

I love options.

Mike, what's the down side to this kit vs. your current turn key Twin kits?
The only downside is that they aren't ball bearing turbos. On the flip side of that though is reduced cost.

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This kit, as with our original kit, does not require dropping the motor to install. The instruction manual is written with the assumption that the motor will be staying in the car. In general, we keep the motor in the car for in-house installs on our TT kits. Pulling the motor simply isn't beneficial enough to justify the extra time to do it.

Just because something is a cake walk to install, doesn't necessarily make it a worthwhile performance modification. Take a look at the STS thread to see what I mean. Easy to install and takes 6 months to get it to work right doesn't sound like a bargain to me. Our stuff works like it should out of the box and doesn't require pulling the kit to do a clutch job.

Basically, with this new kit, you are getting the same attention to detail, reliability, and high success rate as our current twin turbo kits for less money. Besides, it's not always about initial cost and initial installation. You have to factor in the lifetime cost of something and our Twin Turbo kits really can't be beat thanks to lower overall maintenance costs, fewer headaches, and better overall performance out of the box.

Also, keep in mind that these turbos are water cooled just like our current twin turbo kit. The same cannot be said for the other turbo kits on the market. This is a really big deal on a car that already has issues with high oil temperatures.

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Damn it Mike, how many times do I have to offer my car up as a tester?

Keep up the great work!
How many quotes have we given you so far? We're still waiting on you to pull the trigger man! lol

Thanks, and will do. Like I've told you before, we won't stop pushing the envelope until we're all at the big race track in the sky.
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California, huh? I wonder if you guys teamed up with Komak Dynamics to make these turbo's.

I ran a TD06SL2 20g with that same compressor housing on my old Evo 8. Made 404whp on a 2.0 4 cylinder, 26 pounds of boost, and 93 octane. Ran in the 11's trapping near 120mph. Should be interesting to see what 2 of them do.

Be very weary though. Despite the anti-surge compressor cover, those two wheels are slightly mismatched unless you have a good size turbine housing. Care to give some details on that?
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California, huh? I wonder if you guys teamed up with Komak Dynamics to make these turbo's.

I ran a TD06SL2 20g with that same compressor housing on my old Evo 8. Made 404whp on a 2.0 4 cylinder, 26 pounds of boost, and 93 octane. Ran in the 11's trapping near 120mph. Should be interesting to see what 2 of them do.

Be very weary though. Despite the anti-surge compressor cover, those two wheels are slightly mismatched unless you have a good size turbine housing. Care to give some details on that?
These are different turbos on a totally different engine, layout, etc. The VQ37VHR is a completely different animal from the old 4G63.
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Is there a reason the smaller piping/IC setup would not have worked on the current garrett kits?
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