Blackonorange's STS Turbo Build!! - Done by Speedtech Saskatoon

erkthejerk73 · 03-20-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy

Throw a little race fuel in the tank and bump the timing and presto, big dyno numbers for marketing materials.

Results will be A LOT different on 91 octane.

that is straight lying there!

blackonorange · 03-20-2012, 04:28 PM

Nah I think I'll reach my goal of 450 ish whp on 7psi maybe a lil lower then 450 that fine with me but I'm ficking eager !!!! The weather wound here hasn been cooperating either that's why this tuning stage has taken so long

Speedy · 03-20-2012, 04:29 PM

Not saying I agree with it, just throwing it out there. It is marketing after all. I mean what about TV commercials that say this pill makes you skinny, this body spray will make women throw themselves at you everywhere you go, etc.

Another trick is to run the base line in a fully heat soaked car, with deflated tires, then run the after dyno on a bone cold car that had the intake iced down and over inflated tires with looser dyno straps.

Lots of way to manipulate dyno numbers. The best thing is to do three runs and show the average.

erkthejerk73 · 03-20-2012, 04:51 PM

meh i rarely buy into the advertised hp/tq numbers of a product, so many variables per car.

tower74 · 03-20-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonorange

Nah I think I'll reach my goal of 450 ish whp on 7psi maybe a lil lower then 450 that fine with me but I'm ficking eager !!!! The weather wound here hasn been cooperating either that's why this tuning stage has taken so long

The 450whp should be no problem on 91 octane. I would push the boost up to 8 or 9psi. That will help you see those numbers. With a crappy tuner like I had that had no clue on how to tune a car they were able to get 403whp at 5psi and 440whp on 8psi. I should get some new number when I get back in town. New tuner (experienced) and a dyno that doesn't look like Fred Flinstone had once used.

Three7D · 03-20-2012, 09:42 PM

The suspense is killing me man! Post up some vids plz!

blackonorange · 03-21-2012, 08:45 PM

K guys on the lower side right now it's at 390 whp and 310 wtq but it's still real rich but the cable keeps bugging out uprev is probably gonna send a new cable

we are still real rich above 6 grand and the timing hasn't been adjusted either so there's still more power to be made. Also what are other turbo guys seeing for wot afr?

blackonorange · 03-21-2012, 08:46 PM

Also this at 6 psi with spikes of 7 occasionally

Three7D · 03-21-2012, 09:59 PM

That's still on low boost for kit though right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the lowest 5.5psi?

blackonorange · 03-21-2012, 11:22 PM

You can get any spring you want but these numbers are pretty much the base tune STs gives us the uprev cable isn't cooperating and disconnects during runs for some reason

Speedy · 03-21-2012, 11:47 PM

Ok, so about a 110 RWHP gain for 6-7 psi with a turbo. Not terrible, but not fantastic either.

How's the timing look? What is the AFR?

The timing will affect the power output MUCH greater than an AFR change, just be careful with the timing.

With that single mount rear turbo kit at 7psi, I'd think 440-450RWHP would be a nice upgrade.

blackonorange · 03-21-2012, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy

Ok, so about a 110 RWHP gain for 6-7 psi with a turbo. Not terrible, but not fantastic either.

How's the timing look? What is the AFR?

The timing will affect the power output MUCH greater than an AFR change, just be careful with the timing.

With that single mount rear turbo kit at 7psi, I'd think 440-450RWHP would be a nice upgrade.

Afr is super rich like barely 10 timing we haven't touched yet

tower74 · 03-22-2012, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonorange

K guys on the lower side right now it's at 390 whp and 310 wtq but it's still real rich but the cable keeps bugging out uprev is probably gonna send a new cable

we are still real rich above 6 grand and the timing hasn't been adjusted either so there's still more power to be made. Also what are other turbo guys seeing for wot afr?

You should be showing up in the low 11's. That's if your installer installed the AFR "sniffer" after the turbo. I have to move mine due to them installing it before the turbo. I'm always seeing 10.0 when I floor it.

Also if you only bought the basic can tune I don't know what kinda of HP you should be seeing. Always tomorrow and Marc is only a phone call away. On top of that your number are better than what I started with...338hp when we started. So no worries, it does get better.

blackonorange · 03-22-2012, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tower74

You should be showing up in the low 11's. That's if your installer installed the AFR "sniffer" after the turbo. I have to move mine due to them installing it before the turbo. I'm always seeing 10.0 when I floor it.

Also if you only bought the basic can tune I don't know what kinda of HP you should be seeing. Always tomorrow and Marc is only a phone call away. On top of that your number are better than what I started with...338hp when we started. So no worries, it does get better.

Yea actually I was quite impressed with my numbers with the stock tune lol and I don't know where the sniffer is located

Jamaica · 03-22-2012, 12:09 AM

was this with the tune STS provided or s custom tune?

03-20-2012, 09:42 PM	#111 (permalink)
Three7D Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NorCal 707 Posts: 174 Drives: to slow Rep Power: 15	The suspense is killing me man! Post up some vids plz! __________________ 2010 Mag. Black Base+Sports V-LEDs Amuse Vestito (in a large box in my garage) Volk SF Challenge Gold/Phantom Ed. 10mm ichiba v2 F.I. CF+18" res. + F.I. RTP's

03-21-2012, 09:59 PM	#114 (permalink)
Three7D Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NorCal 707 Posts: 174 Drives: to slow Rep Power: 15	That's still on low boost for kit though right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the lowest 5.5psi? __________________ 2010 Mag. Black Base+Sports V-LEDs Amuse Vestito (in a large box in my garage) Volk SF Challenge Gold/Phantom Ed. 10mm ichiba v2 F.I. CF+18" res. + F.I. RTP's

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03-20-2012, 04:28 PM	#107 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	Nah I think I'll reach my goal of 450 ish whp on 7psi maybe a lil lower then 450 that fine with me but I'm ficking eager !!!! The weather wound here hasn been cooperating either that's why this tuning stage has taken so long

03-20-2012, 04:29 PM	#108 (permalink)
Speedy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: TN Posts: 390 Drives: check my signature Rep Power: 13	Not saying I agree with it, just throwing it out there. It is marketing after all. I mean what about TV commercials that say this pill makes you skinny, this body spray will make women throw themselves at you everywhere you go, etc. Another trick is to run the base line in a fully heat soaked car, with deflated tires, then run the after dyno on a bone cold car that had the intake iced down and over inflated tires with looser dyno straps. Lots of way to manipulate dyno numbers. The best thing is to do three runs and show the average.

03-20-2012, 04:51 PM	#109 (permalink)
erkthejerk73 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: cincinnati Posts: 927 Drives: 13 F150 FX4 eb Rep Power: 15	meh i rarely buy into the advertised hp/tq numbers of a product, so many variables per car.

03-21-2012, 08:45 PM	#112 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	K guys on the lower side right now it's at 390 whp and 310 wtq but it's still real rich but the cable keeps bugging out uprev is probably gonna send a new cable we are still real rich above 6 grand and the timing hasn't been adjusted either so there's still more power to be made. Also what are other turbo guys seeing for wot afr?

03-21-2012, 08:46 PM	#113 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	Also this at 6 psi with spikes of 7 occasionally

03-21-2012, 11:22 PM	#115 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	You can get any spring you want but these numbers are pretty much the base tune STs gives us the uprev cable isn't cooperating and disconnects during runs for some reason

03-21-2012, 11:47 PM	#116 (permalink)
Speedy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: TN Posts: 390 Drives: check my signature Rep Power: 13	Ok, so about a 110 RWHP gain for 6-7 psi with a turbo. Not terrible, but not fantastic either. How's the timing look? What is the AFR? The timing will affect the power output MUCH greater than an AFR change, just be careful with the timing. With that single mount rear turbo kit at 7psi, I'd think 440-450RWHP would be a nice upgrade.

03-22-2012, 12:09 AM	#120 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 73	was this with the tune STS provided or s custom tune?

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