Tracking STS Turbo's
 

:driving:Has anybody with a sts system tracked their car and what were their experiences ?

I've put about 2500 miles on mine. Other than some tuning issues no true problems. Still pulls like a SOB.

This would be helpful. Not there yet.

Thanks!

Jim

I meant taking the car to a track and running her for several laps ,pushing hard .There is a consensus that the 370z with FI is not trackable 9 do to temp issues , brake overheating etc Thanks . This is something sts should really do they would get alot of buisness if you could mod and track this car . I think its one of the main reasons people are dumping the 370z for other cars IMHO.

How is the power under 3k RPM when you hit the gas? Similar to stock? Less or more power?

First post has been updated to include pricing of the tuner turbo system, tuning package and the resonator ugrade.

Not really. Even before we had the tune dialed in I could notice a difference in power. With it closer to where it should be you can notice the difference . Just cruising around you can hear the difference in your exhaust . The car just sounds PO 'D that she is going slow , so it's hard not to want to floor it all the time.

U might wanna throw in the prices of the turbo upgrades as well

So you had an increase in power under 3k and what does PO'D mean?

PO'D means pissed off

Yeah if you look at the chart in the video you are already at 300hp around 4000rpm. That's with the turbo and it's already pushing out more than stock, so I would have to guess you would already be pushing around 230-250hp at 3000rpm and PO'd does mean pissed off.

LOL @ PO. How goes your quest for a 6MT? Maybe you could do a swap?

This is the system that gives me the most hope for Finding reliable FI power for the 370z ,(tracked /autoX). How are the in traffic driving temps?(traffic jam anyone) Someone please track (HPDE/autoX) their car !!! .

Heat output on a TT kit can be controlled.. ceramic coat exhaust manifolds and turbine housings, wrap them, then insulate fluid lines and hoses, 34R oil cooler.

Nobody is tracking with FI because none here that TT'd their cars appear to be into road racing.. It does not mean it can't be done. Boost WILL, no matter where the turbo is located, cause some sort of temperature increase. Yes it will be more on a conventional setup than on a remote mount setup... but it can be controlled, people here make it sound like its mission impossible or something.

Well I found that they do make upgrade for the 7AT so I'm going to stick with what I got....on top of that Missouri taxes would kill me again. Not really wanting to drop another $2000 in taxes. Also I can say for now, I'm the only STS 7AT :happydance:

When I was living in town and driving in traffic before the turbo. I've seen the temp spike up 260+ but since the turbo and oil cooler it was around 220-230. Just like most cars it needs air flow to help cool off the engine.
Trust me if I was a home more often I would but at the same time I moved away from all the traffic so I would have go sit in traffic on purpose. Not much on traffic.

I'm sure with the right amount of money you could track a FI Ford Pinto. It's all about the money, time and development.

Of course, but the options I mentioned where budget minded and simple to do while the kit is being installed and should give a significant decrease in temps...With the right (read unlimited) amount of money I would have mentioned aftermarket bumper, hood, fender vents, air ducts, aftermarket radiator, higher output fans, etc etc..

bigger pipping = more turbo lag. More velocity(smaller piping) = more spool, which in turn = :happydance: Since the downpipe is basically the exhaust there is no backpressure issues. My only concern with the kit is the distance the air needs to travel to and from the turbo. Good numbers, I've seen these kits on a number of different cars and they make good power. It's all up to the individual owner in the end!

The system is designed for that distance. I've never had an issue with the system or the "lag" everyone seems to think will happen with that distance.
The turbo kicks in the same time as a front mounted turbo.

They wouldn't be in business if the system didn't work. Innovation is the only way to stand out in the crowd and making the same and better power than everyone else can and for a cheaper price. Now you got a company that is going somewhere.

STS has been around for awhile, they are a good aftermarket company and no one said it doesn"t work. Your obviously happy and thats what matters so don"t get too worked up. I have a single system as well, it's a bit more custom than the STS slap it in the back and call it a day system. You WILL see a longer spool up time than a twin system, thats just the nature of it. Does that mean less power? NO, you mite be able to get more power than a twin system if done properly. If you know how to drive your car the whole boost lag argument really doesn"t matter imo.


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ok.... let me help everyone out with this lag issue we cant seem to get around. i have ridden in towers car a few times and there so sooooooo little lag. it seems like everyone keeps overlooking the fact that denser air moves quicker thru ic piping. remote mount turbo systems provide the coolest charge of any turbo system on the market. thus, the denser charge, negates the longer piping distance. not to mention the fact that our engines already run decent compression as it is (11:1), which overcomes the feeling of "lag" like u would get in your traditional turbo setup. it not instant like a bmw 135, but it definately doesnt lag like a single turbo supra.

plus is anyone gonna say "well true my car is fast as hell with 450hp, but i just wish i had a tt setup so it could make the same power 100rpm's quicker..."

Nice one. I am sure that the piping size has a lot to do with the success of STS's product. I would like to actually ride in an STS turbo'd car. I think the exhaust sounds wierd, but that is irrelevant. Again.....nice post!

I've rode in other turbo cars. That's why I wave the STS flag. This sytem isn't the run of the mill system. Some true innovation has gone into this system. The car in real life sounds exotic and not so much like a muscle car. The power from the single isn't what you would expect. One ride and it'll change the minds of many people.

what do you think cost on this bad boy will be?

$7295 for a turn key kit.. GTM's Stage 1 is $7495.00. You would think price on the STS would be a lot lower since you are paying for just 1, non ball bearing turbo instead of 2 garret ball bearing ones.. maybe is bc the amount of piping on the STS?

No taxes if bought out of state.. STS, or any other vendor would need to charge taxes for their products for buyers within the same state. Did the OP mentioned shipping was included? Sorry if I missed it.

I also got "better than that" pricing from GTM and a few upgrades when I got my kit

Two questions guys .Any issues with the oem cat burning up ( really not trying to stir the pot) should you go with a test pipe? again just to clarify. Also with the kit do you need any tranny clutch upgrades ? Thanks

OEM cats (or any cats) can fail. If they do, it will cause debris to be thrown to the turbo which can cause damage to the turbine wheel. Test pipes are def. recommenced for safety and reliability reasons. Depending on the power level you will need an upgraded clutch. No upgraded tranny if you're shooting for sub 600rwhp, and maybe not even then.. we don't yet know the limits of the stock 6MT. If you have a 7AT then that's a different story. What are your goals?

I paid 7200 Canadian , shipped with upgraded ball bearing turbo and 3 gauges/modules ..... That's cheap, install is quoted at 1300 $ installed and tuned its a crazy deal and the best bang for 500 whp

are there any changes required for RHD vehicle?

Honestly, I don't think what side you drive from will be an issue. The system isn't like your standard slap in the front and call it a day or a drain on the pocket book system that only gives you 512hp for the stage one system. Hey do some research but you won't find a better system for the money.

The system does take mechanical background to install the full tuner kit. Look at the numbers for a stage 1 twin and compare it to the single application. You are getting only 25hp for more money.

yeah, I just know for the TT kits there are changes needed for RHD, due to steering rack etc. being on other side of the car, from the looks of it, there shouldn't be any changes underneath the car (I've installed a CBE and high flow cats myself), but unsure up the front and for the intakes. Hopefully STS can chime in :)

1. How old are their systems?
2. Did they actually drive the vechile correctly and/or allow everything to cool off after running the hell out of the turbo?
This could also be due to the installer, the driver, lack of maintenance and not the system. This isn't about what if or it may happen. I've had ZERO problems.
Your reply was kind of vague...nothing about how the system was treated. People will say until they die that it wasn't their fault it failed and they did everything to keep the system in working order.In some cases, like 98's, it wasn't their fault and the system had a flaw. It happens even with GTM,Stillen,etc... No wants to admit fault and they think the system should last forever since they paid money for said system. No system is not without its problems and I'm sure if it was a huge issue they would of addressed it with a oil free turbo. Which they haven't.

Now, they are not paying me or giving me kick backs to write anything on here. These are all personal experiences on my Z, not on corvettes, mustangs or any other cars only the Z.

That dyno is with 100oct race gas ...gotta compare numbers to numbers.

Honestly, the system is pretty flexable as far as where it can go. Since the only thing that goes in the front is the oil cooler and innercooler. I would have to guess the under belly of these cars are the same. The funny part is, this company does sell quite a few around the world. So I would have to say you're safe but that is a guess.

Tower,

Question: That blue pump is for the oil, correct? Does this use a standalone reservoir, or is it a helper from the distance traveled to the engine?

(Back in my M/C drag turbo days we ran standalones. Not a bad thing.)

That rear system would benefit from a big plastic or carbon cover, like under engines. It looks so vulnerable with potential road debris slapping around.

I'm not a hater. I like this. If that Corvette is a similar turbo system, that shows it well!

Coop

Don't worry about that...hate trollers :tup:... I do believe that is a stand alone oil pump. From what I have read they do use that type of system.
Electric Oil Feed and Scavenge Pumps
As far as road debris, that's a good question. Like I said I've 2500 miles and was just under the car last month. The only I had found was a broken clip holding up the piping. That was a five minute fix and could be from the install. The guys who did my install weren't very versed in imports. SCARY..even though I'm learning myself.
The Corvette wasn't an STS system.

I'm actually liking this system as well! the ease of installation and the power level looks great in every aspect and something i can DIY inside my garage. maybe i should switch kits!:tup:

I just did some MAJOR cleaning in here. This thread is for the announcement about the STS turbo, and discussions about the STS turbo. As Jamaica eloquently said earlier, "If you want to compare kit please start another thread comparing kits. Don't want to go off topic with STS' first thread."

Trust me were trying to keep that way.:tup: