Stage 4 turbo and hood clearance
 

Guys I have an important question and I need your input. I plan on creating a super Z. Plans are to setup a stage 4 turbo and engine build. However currently I'm working with bay speed and fabricating a full carbon fiber kit for the car. I want to know with a stage 4 kit will the oem hood mold still work or will there be clearance issues. If it needs to be modified how so raised hood etc. Please guys this is an immediate thing bay speed and I want to make moves asap to develop great products so whatever info you guys have I'd appreciate it. I hope we can stay with the OEM hood but I'd hate to create a carbon fiber hood and then limit my turbo potential because it won't fit.

turbos with not affect your hood unless your making some crazy top mount kit and want your turbos coming out your hood for drag racing

if u want a supercharger, then u may have to modify the hood. but for turbos, they sit low and on the side, so no hood modification necessary. and wtf is stage 4 LOL. i mean do u plan to build the car in stages? stage one turbo, stage 2 engine build, stage 3....high boost? stage 4...touch urself. **** i would if i had a boosted Z!! good luck with everything. cant wait for carbon fiber bits to come out

Um... what?

What your asking makes no sense... Please provide a better description of the setup you plan on using.

simplified...do you need any additional hood clearance if you run a large TT setup. I am asking because I am fabricating a carbon fiber hood and I want to make sure it fits when it's time for the turbo.

My partner and I have established a budget, we feel it is more than enough for a turboed monster. It will take time, shooting for the end of the year, right now it will take a few months to fabricate the CF body kit. Saturday I'm having my stripped Z towed home, I'm sure when I see it my jaw will drop :eek:

If you are doing a custom TT setup, that is completely up to you if you have to modify the hood or not. I have seen 350Z's done with top mount twin turbos, and bottom mount twin turbos. It's kind of your call!!

^ true

Stage 4? Yep, that's the confusing part. What do you mean by that? Also, what about your engine management? How are you planning to handle that end?

The idea is for a complete overhaul so that we can take performance to the max....in time. We definitely want to be turboed as soon as it comes back with the CF kit. Of course a large build like this will be done in stages. I wanted to make sure I could use the OEM mold since I'd hate to have a nice CF hood and not have it fit. Seems like the general consensus is that it will fit because turbos are mounted low, which is what I thought but never a bad idea to have a second opinion. In reference to the "stage 4" setup, the final goal is approx 700-800 horsepower. Yes we are aware it will be a $$$ commitment and my friend and I are willing to see it to the end. I hope to keep you guys up to date as the Z project progresses. I've always been about American cars but the 370z has happily changed my preferences. Right now I'll be waiting a few months for the wet carbon body kit to be fabricated.

lol someone played a little too much GT4 :p

Be sure to upgrade to at least stage 3 or 4 brakes and no less than stage 5 wheels to handle all that stage 4 power you'll be putting down on the ground.

:driving:

make the hood after the turbos are done..........makes sense right......it's like trying to shingle a roof with no trusses.....LOL

Hey guys, Jet Black Motorsports calls it their stage 4 turbo, that's what I referred to it as.

It would make sense, but unfortunately things didn't work out like that. It's all good though, Aaron at Jet Black was nice enough to get back to me and let me know the OEM design will do just fine. Thanks for everyone's input, and poking fun, this should be an enjoyable and worthwhile project.

lets see some pics and updates now

I would honestly not buy a turbo system from a company that sells a STAGE 4 turbo LOL... whats up with ppl quoting stages all over the place.. . I noticed the same over @ the evo forums too... kinda funny cus its not like stage 4 means anything by itself ... guess it depends on the shop and their kits offered. Usually...
Stage 1 - tune
Stage 2 - turboback / intake / tune
etc...

but I have seen ppl sell a stage 1 package w/ all of the crap mentioned above... so really pointless to say stage blah... instead just list out what the kit contains...

Sure picking up the stripped Z tomorrow

def gonna be a fun build :) keep us updated

Just curious since you are speaking of you and some partner. Are you with a business in the auto industry or do you do car builds for shows? What kind of experience have you got?

we're two best friends who take our hobbies to the extreme. We've saved up a good amount waiting for the right project to come along. If it wasn't going to be the Z we were about to take an e39 m3 and do a full build around an RB26DETT. Experience wise, I had a heavily moddified 2004 Mustang GT O/R X-pipe, gears, diablo tune, full suspension (springs, shocks, struts etc) and a vortech made about 350-400 at the wheels. We have plenty of capable shops and sources to help us out to see this through with the Z. First thing, full CF kit next step turbo and so forth.

Intensepower built this custom top-mount TT setup for a customer's 350Z. Twin GT37R's, and it they still used the OEM hood w/ no modifications.... Setup makes 1,013whp, and that wasn't at full boost.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...b/100_0480.jpg

Finished Setup....

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...a90e41e57a.jpg

Yes please. That will do just fine.

In this case the stages of the turbos are relative to their potential power out put. We will be selling the GTM Turbo Kit. Stage 1 uses twin GT2871R .64A/R turbos ~ 500whp-ish, Stage 2 has .86A/R ~700whp, 3 uses GT3071R .64 A/R ~850whp, and 4 uses GT3071R .86 A/R ~1000whp.

Its to help people get a grasp on the different options out there, thats all.

Thats a really nice setup, I'd like to know more about it.

Twin GT37Rs
- 3.5'' Downpipes
- 5'' thick intercooler
- Twin 44mm Wastegates
- Twin 50mm BOV's
- 1200cc Injectors
- ProEFI 128 Pin ECU
- 4.2L AEBS Stroker
- Tilton Clutch & Flywheel
- PowerLab Twin Pump Fuel System
- PowerLab 3/8'' Plenum Spacer

This was an original spec list. Not sure if the final product changed, but I do know it's sweeeeeeeet!!

That sounds intense. Best of luck and keep us updated.

Setup makes 1,013whp, and that wasn't at full boost.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...b/100_0480.jpg

Are you sure 1,013whp is enough lol! J/K!:rofl2: Man that set up looks awesome! I'd be like speed racer with that!:driving:

I truly wish you luck (:tup:), but it seems odd that someone ready to put down big cash on a TT Z would ask these questions.

What's a stage 4 turbo?

1000whp? Full carbon body?

Big leagues...what I don't understand is why you want to do that.

Could you tell us a little more about your purpose? It clearly isn't racing because no one goes racing with a 1000whp super modified engine. Is this going to be a show car?

Also, I hope you have a lot of money saved up. The engine build alone is going to be $15-20k if you are doing it right. The carbon body is going to be $5-10k if you do it right. That's without even talking about suspension, brakes and drivetrain. If you do those right, there's easily another $15-20k there too.

Those are just initial costs...assuming nothing ever goes wrong from there and you don't have to do any maintenance to your 1000whp motor.

^^ All true!!

Just make sure you contact a shop that is familiar with these cars, and has experience building these types of motors to handle 1,000hp!!

List of shops that have built 1,000+hp VQ's:

Intensepower
Injected Performance
Sound Performance

There are a few other shows at 700+, but haven't broken 1,000hp.....yet!

You would think someone spending such $$$$ on a build should know a TT setup has nothing to do with hood clearance...you would think

The whole stage thing has bothered me all the way back to the pre-Fast & Furious days. It seems like the meaning of "Stage 1 - x" is totally subjective. For instance GTMs stage 1 turbo might do ~500whp when JoeBlows Stage 1 does ~600whp, which ends up making the entire use of "Stage x" to describe modifications completely inconsequential.

Side note: Your 'partner' isn't this guy, is it?

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7...a02396ac2d.jpg

^^hahahahahahahahaha

:rofl2:

I saw a rear mount turbo kit for a 350Z a while ago, similar to an F-Body setup.

Turbo-Kits.com - 09+ Nissan 370Z Twin Turbo Kits - VQ37VHR. yep stage 4 is 1000hp. Im saving up for it, half way there with $ for just the kit itself (not all the other stuff that will have to be done) :)

nothing like bringing up a fail thread with another fail