For those of you with FI - Who's in the 10's

Mecinoid

For those of you with FI's - Who's in the mid 10's and how much did you spend to get it there. If you don't mind sharing your #'s I'd appreciate it.

I'm thinking about doing this ... However, I'm also thinking it might be better to get a 02 ZO6 and build it instead. If you guys are putting over $20K into making your Z's break into the 10's I'm thinking about buying another used Vette and dedicating it for the drags and throwing a Procharger on there.
I saw a Z with 550rwhp but, the guy had over $30K invested in the mods.

Before I bought the Z I considered selling all cars and buying a GTR. That was until I sat in one and calculated how much I'd have to give up to get one. Plus, I was thinking they had a rear seat. There isn't a usable rear seat in a GTR. You can't even put your kid in there. There is NO room for even their legs. like 1" (not kidding) of leg room. That really turned me off on the GTR.

I'll bet if you had SC that produced 550rwhp on a Z you'd best even a lightly modded GTR. Throw a set of TT's or big SC on Vette and you'd have the same fun.

Please share your experience here ....

B.A.Q

I don't see lot of FI guys share numbers, few have their numbers here
official 1/4 mile track times

haven't heard on anyone hitting 10s

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SharpByCoop

No one on the street is in the tens. Certainly that I am aware of. The only car that MAY have been in this league has been modded to the max, and is now running nines out of Vinnie Ten Racing in NY. (Do a Youtube search)

There isn't enough traction available with 2wd to even keep up with a stock GTR. I know. I have as much or more power, and my car is still half a second behind at best.

I'd love to see this, but haven't yet. This doesn't negate building one. From a roll, the car can hang. And, for me anyway, I have a full back seat. (nya-nya! )

Coop

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ZSIZZLE

2wd and the tranny is why you cant compete with a gtr from a dig

Nixlimited

Plenty of ten second and faster cars out there that are 2WD (e.g. Supras/Cobras/Vettes). All about getting it to pavement, which will probably take some awesome drag radials and a great driver. Back in my M3 days there was an ex-pro (or semi-pro) drag guy that drove his E46 M3 to ridiculous times. I watched some videos of his footwork and it was truly amazing. So far advanced from my own drag skills.

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Red__Zed

Exactly. No reason you can't break into the 8s with rwd. Faster than that probably ain't happening though.

Z eliminator

Your going to have to put a full cage in the car. to go that fast.
and tons of RWHP!

Z

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phunk

There are plenty of 370z's here capable of a 10 second pass. 550rwhp is enough to do it.

You will find, that even in the next 5 years, not many guys will actually run a 10. Its because of the type of person that chooses the Z versus other performance cars. While we all want our cars to have that power to be capable of the time slips... Z owners are not typically into drag racing their car at the track. Its been the same way with the 350z/G35 crowd. There are tons of cars making 550-700+ rwhp, but very very few of them bother to take the car to the track... and of those that do, almost none of them set the car up for a clean 1/4 pass.

The real difference is in the wheel, tire, and suspension setup. To get the best times out of a RWD car for 1/4 requires a vastly different configuration of those components versus what handles and performs the best on the street. The Z, when setup to handle and brake like a super-car (which is DOES do), cannot at the same time lay down all the HP. That is the difference between a car originally engineered to be a super car. They use tings like rear mounted transaxles, or mid-engine to be able to better handle the dynamics of all angles of performance with a single configuration. These days, supercars also use very high-tech transmissions... and a transmission setup makes a HUGE difference in 1/4 times... guys that swap to autos in their high power domestics can often drop as much as a second in their 1/4. Didnt someone here drop like .3 or .4 seconds just from a auto trans upgrade in their all motor 370z?

I think that a full street performance built 370z could perform like a 2013 GTR in all dynamics aspects, assuming the GTR is stock. But once you go into a further league, like a highly modified GTR... the GTR is going to be able to take the envelope further from all angles while remaining in a single configuration. The Z will start to require specific setups for the task at hand, such as a different combo of wheels/tires/suspension setup to drag race versus what we would run for optimum all-around performance and appearance.

Next year, you will definitely start seeing some 10 second 370z's. There will be more 370z's with those timeslips than 350z's simply because the engine is more capable/reliable of the required power without a full build.

I predict that there will be more auto's doing it, because an auto is much easier to consistently drag race, and it has more aggresive gearing and faster shifts. But the 6MT guys will do it also.

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phunk

Last week, a full weight (3695lb) twin turbo Viper, still maintaining the independant rear suspension, using street legal 15" drag radials, ran a 7.119@201.34mph. Its a new setup too, he said he is still ramping in the boost slowly. I will bet anything he hits 6's very soon.

RWD is not holding anyone back from drag racing... it just requires the right setup.

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Red__Zed

Was referencing 370 build. Other cars are another story. The s197 should be going 7s shortly.

SharpByCoop

Charles (phunk), I'd like to see this happen (370z's in the tens), but I have big doubts. Your assessment of the type of owner is spot-on and that will limit some.

There is NO WAY my 537 whp is going to get my car close to the tens in my ride. I'm going tomorrow for a final time, but my goal is to nip the 11.6's.

It would take a VERY built and high stall speed torque converter, or an aggressive 6spd launch to get into the 1.6-1.5 60' times this would require. (I'm hovering around 1.85").

Don't see this happening in one year, but I'm ever hopeful.

Yes, 2wd can do it. See below. Also all out drag slicks, and not street drags.

As an irrelevant teaser, here's the World's Quickest Supra with Independent Rear Suspension:

EKKanoo Racing Supra 7.333 314 kmh - Tuned by Shane T - YouTube

I'm going tomorrow to Atco. Who's in?

Coop

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b1adesofcha0s

I'm guessing that my -2.4* of camber is not ideal for putting the power down for drag racing

My sole interest for drag racing this whole past year was to beat my stock time. I think once I do that, I will be done with it for a while. I definitely think autocrossing is a lot more fun.

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phunk

A friend of mine with a full weight 350z 6MT was able to run a 10.9 at about 525rwhp, he was using a set of slicks and was able to achieve, I think, a 1.58 60'. He is experienced and shifts great, and I doubt that there was much left on the table. I am not sure how much heavier a G is over the Z... but I think that a 1.6 60' could be had on a large drag radial, at least with a 6MT... im not sure what the options are for launching the auto trans. But I think that 550rwhp and a 1.6 60' with flawless shifts, should place a 370 into a 10.9. I believe that could be done with a great run on a 335/35/18 drag radial with an 18x12 wheel. That is what I am going to try out myself in spring... I may or may not have already swapped in a built motor by then.

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phunk

You are right about the auto trans setup... I didnt really mention that it will take quite a build in the trans to launch the auto that hard... I think that a built 7AT will do the job better than the 6MT... but I guess that I wasnt considering how few of people will actually take a 7AT trans build that far.. so perhaps the auto trans in the 10s will be fewer than I was thinking in my last post

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SharpByCoop

Charles,

Good info about the 350Z. Any vid?

If anyone is going to get close, YOU are. I can see you have the knowledge, and, will have the package for drag racing to acheive this.

Wish me luck.

Coop

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