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SAM@GTM 12-01-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 1431577)
I dont think your understanding what I said earlier. Not trying to be a *** when I said that, just want you to have all the knowledge so please understand that. There is no one step colder plugs for our car. The stock plugs in your car are the same ones the GTR use. The heat range on the stock plugs is heat range 8. There is no colder plug then that on the market currently. Just don't want you to go buy heat range 8 plugs thinking your getting colder ones when in fact your putting the same ones in your car that you have currently and end up wasting money. Like I said earlier your spark plugs are not the problem. Like Jordo said you would have a CEL if it was.

Frank just to clarify couple things Here

The GTR spark plugs are not the same as the 370Z plugs, also HkS does offer one step or two step colder spark plugs.

Sam

modme 12-01-2011 04:50 PM

While on the topic of HKS spark plugs, what's the recommended replacement interval? Every 20k miles? 30k miles? 50k miles?

SAM@GTM 12-01-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by modme (Post 1431735)
While on the topic of HKS spark plugs, what's the recommended replacement interval? Every 20k miles? 30k miles? 50k miles?

With a good running car( Good Tune ) 60 to 100 k

Sam

toner123 12-01-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 1431684)
Frank just to clarify couple things Here

The GTR spark plugs are not the same as the 370Z plugs, also HkS does offer one step or two step colder spark plugs.

Sam


Hmm weird. considering the fact on HKS website they show the heat range 8 plugs having the same exact part number as the one for the GTR. Also when I went to the dealership I was thinking of getting the GTR plugs, thinking they would be a little cooler and after pulling up the info he said they were already the same exact heat range already the two plugs and using the referance chart it would be equal to a heat range of 8. I just checked NGK website and they are also showing the same part number on the application chart with the OE sign.
Hmm guess I am wrong, just weird there is someone else on here who said he got the same exact information.

modme 12-01-2011 06:13 PM

I spoke to HKS a while back. They told me that their spark plugs are 1 degree colder than listed.

VQStryker 12-01-2011 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modme (Post 1431878)
I spoke to HKS a while back. They told me that their spark plugs are 1 degree colder than listed.

interesting

Fezzik 12-01-2011 10:02 PM

Mine does this as well everyone once inawhile. I never paid any heed to it. It only did this at idle and after a good run. My kit is running great. Best purchase I ever made

juld0zer 03-10-2014 10:14 PM

bit of a thread revival - could someone post up pics or a description of where the pcv vent FRESH air hoses have been routed?
ie. NOT the two hoses which go into the front of the intake manifold.
or a link to the install instructions?

theDreamer 03-11-2014 01:52 PM

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/Manuals...structions.pdf

juld0zer 03-12-2014 03:49 PM

cheers mate, i've just had a look at it.
i'm not a professional mechanic but i can share what i did to my Stillen G3 intake to resolve the same problem you're experiencing.

Page references are based on the labels at the bottom of each page.

Apologies for the use of two units of measurements - i'm from Australia where using both is acceptable depending on the context.

The stock breather system has these features:
RHS - 13mm restrictor orifice is in the junction where the breather hose barb pokes into the accordion pipe.
LHS (USDM driver side) - no restrictor. It is 16mm throughout. 16mm is approximately 5/8".

Page 61: The breather hose has a 5/8" inner diameter. Therefore the outer diameter of the barb it connects to on the supercharger intake is approximately 5/8". The barb's ID would have to be smaller (by quite a bit in this case, as it appears to have quite thick walls).

No issue quite at this point, as it seems to match the OEM setup in terms of hose inner diameter and the inner diameter of the barb fittings.

Page 70: Describes how a tee is used to join both cylinder banks' breathers together, drawing fresh air from the single 5/8" ID hose.

Because of this, the intake of fresh air is restricted by half at this point, and i reckon this is the cause of the sagging idle/stuttering issues you guys have experienced.

On my Stillen CAI, i cut off the LHS breather barb which has an ID of 12.5mm. Welded on a barb with ID of 15.5mm and my idle is about as good as it was with the stock intake now. RHS is left as Stillen made it.

As a simple test, i'd suggest disconnecting the tee and using a straight joiner for the RHS bank. ie. isolate the LHS breather.
For the LHS breather, clamp on a suitable small pod filter. Go for a drive and see what happens. Then try the idle relearn procedure if theres no difference (can be done without scan tools).

Ideally the breathers should draw from after the MAF sensors as the ccv system does recycle the crankcase fumes and burns it up. The fresh air drawn in to replace the fumes should be metered to ensure correct AFRs. But for a quick test it shouldnt hurt. The GTM setup draws from a suitable location but i reckon if you run another 5/8" hose to a new extra barb, it should unchoke it :)


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