Engine/Transmission/etc reliability + FI

Red__Zed · 11-15-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle

Does that $5500 include a full 3" exhaust, a 3" downpipe, tial bov/precision WG, AEM gauges, gauge holder, stage 4 clutch, $700 engine management, a full tune, 1000 CC injectors, a bigger fuel pump, a boost control solenoid, etc? Yeah, that's what I thought,

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Everything but the clutch.

Even better, the guys I built for are still running the cars (last build was in 09), and not selling it 4 months after building it.

On the z trans, there is a lot of debate and not much data from hard use. You are probably good up to about the same limits as the stock bottom end.

Red__Zed · 11-15-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle

. I have zero doubt in my mind that I know more than you do about my specific car and turbo'ing it, so we'll end it here.

Did you ever get your car running? What did you dyno?

awkwardturtle · 11-15-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Everything but the clutch.

Even better, the guys I built for are still running the cars (last build was in 09), and not selling it 4 months after building it.

On the z trans, there is a lot of debate and not much data from hard use. You are probably good up to about the same limits as the stock bottom end.

Honestly, I doubt that.. but if it's true, go over to 8thcivic.com and become a vendor, because you would be undercutting the next closest kit producer by almost 2 grand.

Yes, my car runs, I drive it every day. And no, I don't have a dyno graph as my tuner never gave me one, but I don't need one.. I already know what the kit is capable of, and I already know I'm running it near the fuel limits allowable. I'm not sure why you seem to find this so unbelievable - I run a pretty normal turbo setup. A turbo of this size running ~11 psi tends to put out around 450 whp. There is nothing magical or special about my build.

And as for your insinuation, the kit I bought has zero to do with me selling the car a few months after building it. It comes down to the sole fact that I built this car when my income was nill, and now I have a lot more coming in. Is it not the natural progression of a car enthusiast to move up to bigger and better things? I could sink $100,000 into my civic, but it'll never be a good platform. Hence the Z coming into play..

theDreamer · 11-15-2011, 05:35 PM

Red__Zed · 11-15-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle

Honestly, I doubt that.. but if it's true, go over to 8thcivic.com and become a vendor, because you would be undercutting the next closest kit producer by almost 2 grand.

Built quite a few kits for friends, not interested in doing it full time. For it to financially make sense, I'm wanting 25%+ margins, looking at similar prices to the vendors....Then add on dealing with a Honda crew that brings way too much liability....no thanks.

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Yes, my car runs, I drive it every day. And no, I don't have a dyno graph as my tuner never gave me one, but I don't need one.. I already know what the kit is capable of, and I already know I'm running it near the fuel limits allowable. I'm not sure why you seem to find this so unbelievable - I run a pretty normal turbo setup. A turbo of this size running ~11 psi tends to put out around 450 whp. There is nothing magical or special about my build.

I've never know a tuner to not produce dynos.

Nothing special or magical about it, just weird to not have them.

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And as for your insinuation, the kit I bought has zero to do with me selling the car a few months after building it. It comes down to the sole fact that I built this car when my income was nill, and now I have a lot more coming in. Is it not the natural progression of a car enthusiast to move up to bigger and better things? I could sink $100,000 into my civic, but it'll never be a good platform. Hence the Z coming into play..

Your shop seems to think your car had/still has all sorts of problems.

Anyways, best of luck with the z. The switch to rwd should be fun. Make sure to invest in real tires though.

awkwardturtle · 11-15-2011, 05:55 PM

I think you have me mistaken with someone else. I've literally had one single problem since turbo'ing my car (mechinically), and that was just me needing to replace the IC clamps with better ones since I developed a slight boost leak. Other than that, it has been rock solid. My only other issues have been putting the power to the ground, which is why I've begun to sour on the platform.

Red__Zed · 11-15-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle

I think you have me mistaken with someone else. I've literally had one single problem since turbo'ing my car (mechinically), and that was just me needing to replace the IC clamps with better ones since I developed a slight boost leak. Other than that, it has been rock solid. My only other issues have been putting the power to the ground, which is why I've begun to sour on the platform.

"I vtec, do you?"

blackonorange · 11-15-2011, 06:16 PM

Lolololol nothing beats vtec

awkwardturtle · 11-15-2011, 06:17 PM

Yes sir. What shop are you talking about? I had a small shop do my install, and I haven't communicated with the installer much since except to tell him how happy I was with the work he did. If you even look through my build thread, you'll notice the only frustration I ran into was why my tune was being all wonky, and that turned out to be because of a leaking clamp.

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

"I vtec, do you?"

Dude what experience do you have with big power hondas? None. Leave the kid alone.

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11-15-2011, 05:55 PM	#21 (permalink)
awkwardturtle Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: minnesota Posts: 98 Drives: 07 Civic SI Rep Power: 13	I think you have me mistaken with someone else. I've literally had one single problem since turbo'ing my car (mechinically), and that was just me needing to replace the IC clamps with better ones since I developed a slight boost leak. Other than that, it has been rock solid. My only other issues have been putting the power to the ground, which is why I've begun to sour on the platform.

11-15-2011, 06:16 PM	#23 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	Lolololol nothing beats vtec

11-15-2011, 06:17 PM	#24 (permalink)
awkwardturtle Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: minnesota Posts: 98 Drives: 07 Civic SI Rep Power: 13	Yes sir. What shop are you talking about? I had a small shop do my install, and I haven't communicated with the installer much since except to tell him how happy I was with the work he did. If you even look through my build thread, you'll notice the only frustration I ran into was why my tune was being all wonky, and that turned out to be because of a leaking clamp.