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Ricardo2.0 09-26-2011 10:53 PM

GTM force induction or not?
 
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weiboy718 09-26-2011 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardo2.0 (Post 1330929)
OK guys is time to get some HP gains out of my 09 Z right now i have cat back agency power exhaust and tanabe intakes.
I was looking to purchase a supercharger from GTM but i got confused really quick. i love to be around 400 HP and not looking to spend more than $5500.00

I will really love to get some pointers from someone who owns a supercharger kit.

Thanks
2.0

$5500.00 is not enough to get the kit, let alone if you need someone to install it for you. also don't forget you should get the supporting mods too.

DJ-of-E 09-26-2011 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1330937)
$5500.00 is not enough to get the kit, let alone if you need someone to install it for you. also don't forget you should get the supporting mods too.

I concur. You need to make sure everything else with the Z will be able to balance out with the increase power. The stock VLSD would not be able to grip the excess power. You probably going to need stickier tires because even the stock tire couldn't hold the stock power. Suspension needs to be stiff or else you'd be wobbling all over the place.

There's more to it as well, but better address those first before anything else.

jason805 09-27-2011 04:21 AM

GTM supercharger is 7,000 for the turnkey kit, which SC are you looking at buying?

I bought a non-sport z and looking to buy a SC as well. I've never heard anybody say we needed to upgrade our VLSD.

NewYorkJon34 09-27-2011 05:16 AM

You don't need to buy an upgraded Vlsd unless you plan on tracking your car. To the OP only wanting to spend $5550*, it's not going to happen. Even if you bought the stg.1, you still have about a 2k install price, going to need an oil cooler, clutch, & dyno tune. For the stage 1, I'd say it would be about $10,000.

fuct 09-27-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardo2.0 (Post 1330929)
OK guys is time to get some HP gains out of my 09 Z right now i have cat back agency power exhaust and tanabe intakes.
I was looking to purchase a supercharger from GTM but i got confused really quick. i love to be around 400 HP and not looking to spend more than $5500.00

I will really love to get some pointers from someone who owns a supercharger kit.

Thanks
2.0

:confused:

red6spd 09-27-2011 11:03 AM

Look for a used Stillen and install it yourself. Thats the only way your gonna be able to spend the money you want to spend. I would reckomend just saving even if its for another year or two and do it right. If you set a low budget like that the car is gonna be more problems then you want.

kosstick 09-27-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricardo2.0 (Post 1331487)
10000 is a little more over my budget for upgrades i like to own a top of the line vehicle because i like to keep cars as original as i can. Im not trying to spend more than i will say 8000 tuned and everything. i pay 28,500 cash for the car. this is really addictive i love the car. i am in AZ, if i find a shop like GTM to do all work i will pay 8,000 i will arrange for delivery of the car then i fly out and pick the car myself. if i can't do this then i will sell the car and maybe buy a GTR or a 911. GUYS ABOVE THANKS FOR THE ADVICE AND REPLY'S///

A GTM STAGE 1 installed is about 8k with turn key tuned. Pm me if you need more info.

NewYorkJon34 09-27-2011 01:12 PM

Dang If you could have bought a GT-R or 911 turbo, how did you end up with a Z? Lol

Reality 09-27-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1331816)
Dang If you could have bought a GT-R or 911 turbo, how did you end up with a Z? Lol

To add: if you think $10k is to much for your power needs..I don't see how you can afford either the GTR or 911 Turbo.

NewYorkJon34 09-27-2011 04:05 PM

^Truth

OMG37 09-27-2011 10:48 PM

Can someone translate the above post for me???

Good choice on the SC and good luck to you. I don't have anything other than the stock traction control system and my car is amazing to drive and does not slide all over the place.

That said if I did have plans to use it for tracking and not for daily driving I'd probably invest in a better traction control system and something other than stock tires.

B.A.Q 09-28-2011 01:00 AM

there is a stillen kit for 4800$ and it can go to 10psi so you might be able to hit 500
and I think it costs less to install than other kits.

Reality 09-28-2011 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardo2.0 (Post 1332897)
I really laugh at some individuals humor. Money to me is not a problem at least well invested money. I still think 10,000 US$ is a little much for a DD. Someone mentioned Afford a GTR or a 911 who cares if I or Anyone can afford a GTR or 911 GT3. I like the car i drive now my 370z is awesome is great experience every day i drive this toy. The fact is Today i call GTM and i will be getting something they called turn key SC kit they said is the best B for the buck. The install will be done locally by professionals for 1,200.00 I am exited about this and will post pics as i move with my project toy. One more thing i was stationed in CA FT Irwin before i moved to AZ and I finish with my lease 2000.00 monthly payments on my SUV. I was approved for 110,000.00 for a vehicle not counting that my wife drives a Rover and my son also has a vehicle... Now purchase a GTR or a 911 is not the problem but to myself is not well invested money. When you have kids two houses a business you don't think in yourself with a 70,000 or 90,000 car you think in your family first.. my old suv is in some carmax in CA i just send them some paperwork they requested trough Porsche of ND. take a look at my old truck LOL
2008 Porsche Cayenne GTS in Costa Mesa, CA- 7698009 at carmax.com


Reality and New Y i spend almost 20min of my time writing this remember you owe me 20 min of your time.

20 min to type this, really?.. My apologies.

-I don't think anybody cares what you can or can't buy. But if you are hesitant to drop $10k to mod your z, than you probably couldn't afford either the GTR or the 911TT, AS A DD
*You should read up on the cost of the GTR's first service.. *

And save me the grandstanding about how much you sacrifice for family... Nobody has questioned that, nor would they. I have some friends who make mid or higher 6 figures/year, but drive around in 3 series bmw's, only because they want to invest for their families futures.. Not waste $ on project/toys, as you said.

Food for thought:
-You are boosting your DD.. that is a recipe for headaches/heartaches.
-If you think that you're in the clear after the FI install, you have a surprise in store for you.
-If you don't have the money for a full rebuild of your motor, you are not ready for FI.

esfourteen 09-28-2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.A.Q (Post 1333098)
there is a stillen kit for 4800$ and it can go to 10psi so you might be able to hit 500
and I think it costs less to install than other kits.

it sold last week :tup:

Neo187H 09-28-2011 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason805 (Post 1331163)
GTM supercharger is 7,000 for the turnkey kit, which SC are you looking at buying?

I bought a non-sport z and looking to buy a SC as well. I've never heard anybody say we needed to upgrade our VLSD.

As no one touched on this... doesn't a base non-sport Z have an open rear diff?

esfourteen 09-28-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo187H (Post 1333534)
As no one touched on this... doesn't a base non-sport Z have an open rear diff?

correct, only cars equipped with the sport package or the nismo have a VLSD.

birdmanx1 09-28-2011 12:07 PM

Ricardo, the GTM SC kit is pretty popular on the forum and should give the extra umph you are looking for. My main thing with going FI though is that problems are to be expected. A few members on the forum had very bad experience while others seem not to go through as many issues. As for me personally, I would use the money to go FI and apply it on a GTR without losing any warranty.

Cool website boss man :tup:

birdmanx1 09-28-2011 01:31 PM

Thanks Ricardo, the current Z generation wins hands down in the look department over cars that cost twice or even 3 times as much. I admit catching myself checking out the curves on the car at times :p One of the huge plus with the Z is the value to price ratio, it almost doesn't get any better than this and yes why go for a more expensive car when you can go with one that offers excellent performance at a mighty reasonable price.
Enjoy boosting your car and post up pics when done :tup:

roplusbee 09-29-2011 12:08 AM

<off-topic>

Dude, please use spell-check or slow down. With minimal mistakes an average human can still read sentences and comprehend. That **** looks like some crap my 13yr old daughter would text to someone. :shakes head:

</off-topic>

OK, on-topic........If you think going F/I is a bargain, you are in for a surprise. If you go with GTM, you can purchase a turn-key it and be OK for a while. However, you must think supporting parts, maintenance, and "oh crap" funds with any F/I build. If you put my girl's income with mine, we still don't make 6 figures. I have a budget that I call "fun money" that supports my hobbies. I also have a credit card specifically for that "oh crap" moment. Hope you have fun with your Z.............:eekdance:

birdmanx1 09-29-2011 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1335061)
I also have a credit card specifically for that "oh crap" moment.

Would you mind PMing the card info Rob? hook a B'more brother up!!! ;)

roplusbee 09-29-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1335181)
Would you mind PMing the card info Rob? hook a B'more brother up!!! ;)

LOL......I got a CC with a pretty good limit on it just for a possible blown motor incident. That will give me a reason to go with forged internals.

<side bar>

When I get outta this hell-hole, I'm gonna look you up dude. Most definitely when I am on post-tour leave.

</side bar>

birdmanx1 09-29-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1335228)
LOL......I got a CC with a pretty good limit on it just for a possible blown motor incident. That will give me a reason to go with forged internals.

<side bar>

When I get outta this hell-hole, I'm gonna look you up dude. Most definitely when I am on post-tour leave.

</side bar>

Sounds great man, I'll be here ready when you are done kicking aZZ in that hell-hole place :tup: Hopefully your FI Z will also be done Rob ;) Be careful and thanks once again for your service.

jason805 09-29-2011 12:27 PM

Ricardo,

I have a hard time believing that your company is bringing in 250k+ if you don't know how to structure your sentences correctly. As for your website, (I'm a designer and developer) you should probably change the copyright date.


Copyright ©2006 N2 Network Solutions, LLC. All rights reserved.

Anyways GL w/ the boost.

Reality 09-29-2011 01:48 PM

^+1

Ricardo/GrandPa,
I surely hope you are well into your 70's, if you are calling me "kid"...

- Reading & Writing.. It's "fundamental"... So you really should get on that..:icon17:

I look forward to your "I blew my engine, now what do I do" thread...

GL!

kosstick 09-29-2011 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reality (Post 1335970)
^+1

Ricardo/GrandPa,
I surely hope you are well into your 70's, if you are calling me "kid"...

- Reading & Writing.. It's "fundamental"... So you really should get on that..:icon17:

I look forward to your "I blew my engine, now what do I do" thread...

GL!

Not trying to be a ****, but there are plenty of people that are much more wealthier than we are while still not being able to form a simple sentence in english...

TWYNBYZ 09-29-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason805 (Post 1335776)
Ricardo,

I have a hard time believing that your company is bringing in 250k+ if you don't know how to structure your sentences correctly. As for your website, (I'm a designer and developer) you should probably change the copyright date.


Copyright ©2006 N2 Network Solutions, LLC. All rights reserved.

Anyways GL w/ the boost.

I work with C level execs that can't spell for **** but pull in millions of dollars each year. Do a few misspelled words dictate ones success, I think not. Maybe it signifies laziness, but not success or their level of income.

If the dude says he pulls $250K a year, so be it......

TWYNBYZ 09-29-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kosstick (Post 1335993)
Not trying to be a ****, but there are plenty of people that are much more wealthier than we are while still not being able to form a simple sentence in english...

You posted a similar comment to mine...Amen to your statement

kosstick 09-29-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardo2.0 (Post 1336153)
I have to say TWYNBYZ thanks for the support. And to those others who criticized everything well i don't loose any sleep but you make my laugh and found it entertaining. But from now n i will PM the good PPL on this forum. I have got great advice on this forum thanks to all from the Admin to TWYNBYZ i really apresiated your time. By the way jason 805 for fiscal year 09-10 my company have earnings of over 11M and my 250K are not salary but bonuses my salary is One dollar a month minus taxes i end up with 69 cents LOL.About my copyrights jason look at the (LLC) you may be a designer and a developer LOL but you dont have a clue on what it takes to build something like my company. AMEN And I have plenty PPL here who master everything form Basic++, CofeeSCripl, JMV, cocoa, and many many more i dont need advised from you sir or are you trying to inquire for some kind of advisory fees, then let me tell you. YOU ARE FIRED. this is my last post as i have been advised by my legal department not to engage on this type of conversations Well good Luck to you all. AND YES I LOVE MY 370Z...

Pm me on what build you decide to go with.

TWYNBYZ 09-29-2011 04:21 PM

This is off topic but these two statements are why the thread went south:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reality (Post 1331891)
To add: if you think $10k is to much for your power needs..I don't see how you can afford either the GTR or 911 Turbo.

Quote: Dang If you could have bought a GT-R or 911 turbo, how did you end up with a Z? Lol

The value of $10K to one man may differ from another. For the guy that has a family and household to maintain, spending $10K (whether he has it or not) may not be viable at that moment in time. My wife and I just had twin boys (not asking for any sympathy or anything...lol) and I'd love to boost my car. However, I now have to think about the two additional mouths I have feed in addition to diapers, clothes, medical coverage and college funds. To me, the $10K is better invested into my sons future at this point in time. Could I have purchased a more expensive car than my Z? Yep. Was it feasible at the time? Nope. It’s as simple as that.

I know many members on this forum that have the means to purchase more expensive vehicles but happily purchased a 370. In addition, we all mod our cars within the means available to us. So, I don't see the merit or value of the two above statements......

Sorry for the rant........

Red__Zed 09-29-2011 04:23 PM

:wtf2:

This whole thread is a mess:shakes head:

roplusbee 09-30-2011 09:05 AM

Legal department? Wow...............

So I guess I am supposed to infer that I am one of the bad seeds of the forum because of the statement that I made. The more I deal with Americans, the more I fell like our society has become soft and weak (and I am American, lol). I guess being in........let's call them interesting situations has given me a different perspective on things as a whole.

Ricardo2.0:

Don't worry, I will stay out of your threads from now on. I did not intend on making you feel like you were being attacked. However, this is a public forum and you volunteered to post. You should have a little thicker skin if you are doing what you say you are. I never questioned your income, I just had a REALLY hard time reading what you posted. I also took the time to share my plan to give you an idea of what you are getting into. Please DON'T PM me. I would rather not be bothered. Good luck with your purchase.........

W.O.W. 370Z 09-30-2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1337723)
Legal department? Wow...............

So I guess I am supposed to infer that I am one of the bad seeds of the forum because of the statement that I made. The more I deal with Americans, the more I fell like our society has become soft and weak (and I am American, lol). I guess being in........let's call them interesting situations has given me a different perspective on things as a whole.

Ricardo2.0:

Don't worry, I will stay out of your threads from now on. I did not intend on making you feel like you were being attacked. However, this is a public forum and you volunteered to post. You should have a little thicker skin if you are doing what you say you are. I never questioned your income, I just had a REALLY hard time reading what you posted. I also took the time to share my plan to give you an idea of what you are getting into. Please DON'T PM me. I would rather not be bothered. Good luck with your purchase.........

http://dorkshelf.com/wordpress/wp-co...ionel-hutz.gif

This is a crazy thread.


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