Carb approved kits for California

Josh@STILLEN · 09-08-2011, 12:45 AM

If you followed the story you're mentioning, there was a bad injector at play it would seem..

and it didn't blow Weiboy's engine.. you're just

..

It's been a while Shumby, hope things are good with you up north! Or are you in the middle of nowhere again? lol

OMG37 · 09-08-2011, 02:59 AM

To be nice I'll leave my post out of the announcement on this site. I'll just say that reading your announcement just makes me laugh. Proclaiming you are the leader in Nissan/Infiniti product development and first to provide a forced induction solution is a stretch from the truth.

Nice work on getting the CARB approval, but that's really for California guys that care about that stuff. You guys are nice guys so hopefully no hard feelings but the hype over CARB approval should be just that...the rest can be left out it just begs people like myself to say something.

roy'sz · 09-08-2011, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG37

To be nice I'll leave my post out of the announcement on this site. I'll just say that reading your announcement just makes me laugh. Proclaiming you are the leader in Nissan/Infiniti product development and first to provide a forced induction solution is a stretch from the truth.

Nice work on getting the CARB approval, but that's really for California guys that care about that stuff. You guys are nice guys so hopefully no hard feelings but the hype over CARB approval should be just that...the rest can be left out it just begs people like myself to say something.

I remember goin to hot import nights and watching the cops "sniff" cars as they drove by. They were like flies on sh*t. I know in texas you don't have to worry abotu that but here in cali its worth getting instead of rippin everything off your car to solve a "fix it" ticket. I think you should open mouth and insert foot home boy!

hdskull · 09-08-2011, 04:59 AM

^yeah, heard of people who put in their TT's only to be ref'd a few months later... ouch, all that labor cost!

OMG37 · 09-08-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz

I remember goin to hot import nights and watching the cops "sniff" cars as they drove by. They were like flies on sh*t. I know in texas you don't have to worry abotu that but here in cali its worth getting instead of rippin everything off your car to solve a "fix it" ticket. I think you should open mouth and insert foot home boy!

I think you are missing my point...home boy. I said the CARB approval is a good thing. Only people from California people really need something like that so to make it some big OH MAN WE ARE THE **** WE ARE LEGAL EVERYWHERE NOW and the other stuff about being industry leading and "first" is not necessary. It's all hype.

What kind of countless hours of exhausting work was needed to be "legal" in all the other 49 states? And seriously...improving the supercharger tuning was put on hold to get the CARB approval taken care of? I'm pretty sure there are more than just 5 guys working at Stillen. Seems like there is a whole team of engineers, I would think they'd be able to accomplish both!

Again, my point was just to post that you got your CARB approval and that's it...the rest is BS.

Lug · 09-08-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OMG37

I think you are missing my point...home boy. I said the CARB approval is a good thing. Only people from California people really need something like that so to make it some big OH MAN WE ARE THE **** WE ARE LEGAL EVERYWHERE NOW and the other stuff about being industry leading and "first" is not necessary. It's all hype.

What kind of countless hours of exhausting work was needed to be "legal" in all the other 49 states? And seriously...improving the supercharger tuning was put on hold to get the CARB approval taken care of? I'm pretty sure there are more than just 5 guys working at Stillen. Seems like there is a whole team of engineers, I would think they'd be able to accomplish both!

Again, my point was just to post that you got your CARB approval and that's it...the rest is BS.

If you don't think people look at the CARB cert outside of Cali, you are mistaken. Even if you don't have to have it, you still get the benefit of knowing that your car can pass anywhere. Also, Cali is probably the biggest market for used sales when you want to move on. CARB is a big deal. I remember high end places like JWT trying for years to get this back in the 350Z days....and failing.

OMG37 · 09-09-2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

If you don't think people look at the CARB cert outside of Cali, you are mistaken. Even if you don't have to have it, you still get the benefit of knowing that your car can pass anywhere. Also, Cali is probably the biggest market for used sales when you want to move on. CARB is a big deal. I remember high end places like JWT trying for years to get this back in the 350Z days....and failing.

Well I certainly wasn't trying to say that nobody cares about it outside of California, but I am definitely one that doesn't go purchase a car down the street and wonder if it's CARB approved. It's obviously a matter of opinion who cares and who doesn't. The nice thing is that it's CARB approved now...but all they fluff around it was what I'm pointing out.

roy'sz · 09-09-2011, 04:11 AM

Who else had a carb approved kit other than this one?

roy'sz · 09-09-2011, 04:21 AM

took the liberty to google it. Only saw results for stillen.....so....yeah! But for the record, if I did live in a state that didn't require it, best belive not 1 part would be carb legal lol.

Lug · 09-09-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz

Who else had a carb approved kit other than this one?

GTM is working on theirs now. I don't think anyone else is close.

Lug · 09-09-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG37

Well I certainly wasn't trying to say that nobody cares about it outside of California, but I am definitely one that doesn't go purchase a car down the street and wonder if it's CARB approved. It's obviously a matter of opinion who cares and who doesn't. The nice thing is that it's CARB approved now...but all they fluff around it was what I'm pointing out.

FYI, did a little reaserch and found this...

"Currently, 16 other states have either adopted, or are in the process of adopting, California's strict emissions standards. These states include New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Vermont, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington, Maryland, Florida, and several others."

link: HowStuffWorks "CARB"

I had no idea anyone else had adopted these standards yet.

Nixlimited · 09-09-2011, 01:40 PM

My issue with CARB is the methodology of enforcement. I am all for cleaner air and such, but then why don't you measure my emissions rather than failing me because I have changed something? For example, a CAI may have absolutely no effect on my emissions, or I may still be well within allowed emissions, but I am going to fail just because I put the part on? That's crap, and it has no rational relation to the end goal, which is improving air quality. If I had it my way, what you did to your car wouldn't matter so long as you passed the emissions test, since that's what actually matters. In the mean time, CARB just kills innovation and small businesses that want to sell parts to car enthusiasts. Fortunately, enough of us are willing to ignore CARB to keep shops in business.

OMG37 · 09-09-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

FYI, did a little reaserch and found this...

"Currently, 16 other states have either adopted, or are in the process of adopting, California's strict emissions standards. These states include New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Vermont, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington, Maryland, Florida, and several others."

link: HowStuffWorks "CARB"

I had no idea anyone else had adopted these standards yet.

I've heard stories that Texas is considering it as well. I personally think the cleaner emissions is a must have, so maybe one day I'll have to suck it up and just get rid of my toys...but first I'd like to see them be stricter on not allowing some of these old beat up clunkers that you see black smoke coming out the back. There are so many lazy, neglectful people out there on the road, more so then there are people like us who have a nice new car with performance mods on them, that don't take care of their vehicles and run them into the ground and pollute the air worse than us.

OMG37 · 09-09-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

GTM is working on theirs now. I don't think anyone else is close.

Sam is working on it, but as does everyone, he has to prioritize his time. I would tell you what he told me about some of the really minor **** he has to deal with when getting the CARB approval, but it's not my place to tell. It just goes to show the amount of headache and detail that goes into this approval process.

Lug · 09-09-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OMG37

I've heard stories that Texas is considering it as well. I personally think the cleaner emissions is a must have, so maybe one day I'll have to suck it up and just get rid of my toys...but first I'd like to see them be stricter on not allowing some of these old beat up clunkers that you see black smoke coming out the back. There are so many lazy, neglectful people out there on the road, more so then there are people like us who have a nice new car with performance mods on them, that don't take care of their vehicles and run them into the ground and pollute the air worse than us.

Agreed. I think law enforcement in Cali uses CARB as an excuse to go after performance enthusiasts . No way they are polluting more than the average mid 90's junker car out there. If CARB was about what it's supposed to be about, tailpipe monitoring would be all they would do. In Texas, they just hook up an emissions monitor and you pass or fail, simple as that.

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Nixlimited A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,235 Drives: 15 GT-R / 11 Prius Rep Power: 26	My issue with CARB is the methodology of enforcement. I am all for cleaner air and such, but then why don't you measure my emissions rather than failing me because I have changed something? For example, a CAI may have absolutely no effect on my emissions, or I may still be well within allowed emissions, but I am going to fail just because I put the part on? That's crap, and it has no rational relation to the end goal, which is improving air quality. If I had it my way, what you did to your car wouldn't matter so long as you passed the emissions test, since that's what actually matters. In the mean time, CARB just kills innovation and small businesses that want to sell parts to car enthusiasts. Fortunately, enough of us are willing to ignore CARB to keep shops in business. __________________ Car Sold! Pleasure being a part of the Z community. New ride: 2015 GT-R - 647 WHP / 641 WTQ (e85) & 543 WHP / 519 WTQ (91)

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Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 533	If you followed the story you're mentioning, there was a bad injector at play it would seem.. and it didn't blow Weiboy's engine.. you're just .. It's been a while Shumby, hope things are good with you up north! Or are you in the middle of nowhere again? lol

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roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	Who else had a carb approved kit other than this one?

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roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	took the liberty to google it. Only saw results for stillen.....so....yeah! But for the record, if I did live in a state that didn't require it, best belive not 1 part would be carb legal lol.