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nightfire 05-03-2009 01:26 PM

Passing NJ Inspection with an F/I Z???
 
I'm looking to do a 370z F/I project once I graduate college. Looking to do a twin turbo kit to make anywhere from 600-800rwhp. But the real question is will I pass inspection in jersey? I know they've really been cracking down especially in jersey and i'm going to have to be running a lot richer to run the turbo setup I assume.

nightfire 07-10-2009 02:41 PM

I posted this up a while ago and i'm still thinking about it (probably less power though, or maybe a supercharger). But either way can anyone answer the question on passing NJ emissions legally with a TT setup pushing decent RWHP numbers(400+)?

AK370Z 07-10-2009 02:59 PM

I highly doubt it! You can go to those "other shops" and get your inspection sticker. They have mirrors to check for cat converters and a video camera to check under your car. Of course, lets not forget the Emission OBD II check. I was at the NJ inspection station 2 days ago for my dad's car, and now they lift the front of the car. They installed a machine that raises your front end by pushing on your oil pan area. I was like :wtf:. I hope they DON'T do that to the Z in 4 year because if there's any damage, I'm calling Mr. Corzine!

nightfire 07-10-2009 03:02 PM

damn, nj is just getting worse and worse for this stuff... So everyone here that is/will be running a TT set up in NJ is doing it illegally then? That sux...

I guess a S/C set up wouldn't be any better then?

Snakebite202 07-10-2009 06:46 PM

You could always move to VA...no emissions check, just a visual to make sure ur cat is still there. Or Florida where they just don't give a damn...lol

GMZ 07-10-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakebite202 (Post 111617)
You could always move to VA...no emissions check, just a visual to make sure ur cat is still there. Or Florida where they just don't give a damn...lol

They dont even do that, as long as there a pipe there youre good.

nightfire 07-10-2009 09:52 PM

haha I wish guys I wish. But no can do. Gotta find a way to pass in jersey unfortunately.

Snakebite202 07-11-2009 06:44 AM

Your best bet would be to find a "tuner friendly" shop -I'm sure some of the local car clubs/groups are in the know.

BillyGoatGag 07-11-2009 06:59 AM

Agreed. That's your best bet. We're not talking about any illegal papers or anything, but Z clubs should have folks in them who know where to go for help. Shops that, in the event that the car fails, will provide insight and a realistic, tuner-friendly solution. Unlike Jiffy Lube and others that will just tell you to take a hike.

Even if there aren't any of those, what about some high-flow cats? I've never installed any or tried them, but on paper they sound great.

-Clay

njlakeshoreg 07-11-2009 09:20 AM

hey if you had cats on there and no check engine lights then you have no worries...or weld shields to the test pipes... i work for the inspection since 2002...

also on another note, the lift pushes up on your front subframe or contril arms...theres no harm, they lift vettes, older G's and z's....miatas, lol...everything...but me lift a car?? haha umm yea ok.....

nightfire 07-11-2009 10:42 AM

Yeah I was thinking of just running hi flow cats but I was unsure if a turbo set up on the Z would throw a light or not.

bigaudiofanat 07-11-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 111491)
I highly doubt it! You can go to those "other shops" and get your inspection sticker. They have mirrors to check for cat converters and a video camera to check under your car. Of course, lets not forget the Emission OBD II check. I was at the NJ inspection station 2 days ago for my dad's car, and now they lift the front of the car. They installed a machine that raises your front end by pushing on your oil pan area. I was like :wtf:. I hope they DON'T do that to the Z in 4 year because if there's any damage, I'm calling Mr. Corzine!

Not anymore my friend as of the beginning of this year the new inspection stickers have a chip inside them that has the vehicles info on it. You can go a turb just as long as you have your catalytic converter still and it is tuned right. When the time comes to get it inspected I would take it to the dyno shop and get the turbos turned down to like 5 pounds of boost each and retuned. After that I am pretty sure you will pass.:ugh2:

nightfire 07-11-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 111989)
Not anymore my friend as of the beginning of this year the new inspection stickers have a chip inside them that has the vehicles info on it. You can go a turb just as long as you have your catalytic converter still and it is tuned right. When the time comes to get it inspected I would take it to the dyno shop and get the turbos turned down to like 5 pounds of boost each and retuned. After that I am pretty sure you will pass.:ugh2:

Good stuff thanks for the info. Yeah I was thinking of just doing duel maps and having a toggle switch to make things super easy. When i want to get it inspected all I have to do is flip the switch :tup:

njlakeshoreg 07-11-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 111989)
Not anymore my friend as of the beginning of this year the new inspection stickers have a chip inside them that has the vehicles info on it. You can go a turb just as long as you have your catalytic converter still and it is tuned right. When the time comes to get it inspected I would take it to the dyno shop and get the turbos turned down to like 5 pounds of boost each and retuned. After that I am pretty sure you will pass.:ugh2:


lol..theres no chip inside the sticker...there is a bar code, thats all...

ur only option really would be a collector sticker, where you would only have to have the odometer working, its easy to do...

6MT 07-11-2009 06:34 PM

I feel sorry for you folks that have "emissions tests" as a requirement. Here in the great white (and unpolluted) north, we have nothing. No check for altered (or lack of) cats, no tail pipe sniffer tests.... absolutely nothing.
We do have "insurance inspections". But they are only required when the vehicle is over 10 years old. And that's only to get insurance, not for government requirements.
Ahhhh,... to be backward is bliss!!

nightfire 07-11-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by njlakeshoreg (Post 112102)
lol..theres no chip inside the sticker...there is a bar code, thats all...

ur only option really would be a collector sticker, where you would only have to have the odometer working, its easy to do...

And how exactly would I go about getting one of these "collector stickers"?

njlakeshoreg 07-11-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfire (Post 112195)
And how exactly would I go about getting one of these "collector stickers"?

you need collector car insurance, follow there rules, go to the DMV and ask for a collector car registration and voucher and then when you have those items, you can come to the inspection part and get the sticker...insurance is real cheap for a collector car! so nice

nightfire 07-11-2009 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by njlakeshoreg (Post 112276)
you need collector car insurance, follow there rules, go to the DMV and ask for a collector car registration and voucher and then when you have those items, you can come to the inspection part and get the sticker...insurance is real cheap for a collector car! so nice

So if it's so cheap and easy how come everyone doesn't do it?

bigaudiofanat 07-12-2009 11:13 AM

There is a chip not only have I seen the new stickers it is not like a real chip like a piece of aluminum, I not only have seen them but when my friends got pulled over the officer put something to the windshield and brought up a lot of info. Believe me you are no longer going to be able to get those counter fit ones.

Snakebite202 07-12-2009 05:33 PM

Maybe the "chip" is to insure that sticker is legit- it doesn't seem like it would make sense for a sitcker to have a "chip" in to store info about a car.

njlakeshoreg 07-12-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfire (Post 112284)
So if it's so cheap and easy how come everyone doesn't do it?

i never applied for it but i do know that you are limited to mileage per year, must own the car and i believe it has to qualify for why its being "collected"

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 112446)
There is a chip not only have I seen the new stickers it is not like a real chip like a piece of aluminum, I not only have seen them but when my friends got pulled over the officer put something to the windshield and brought up a lot of info. Believe me you are no longer going to be able to get those counter fit ones.

i see the stickers everyday of my life, i been in the facility and i fix the emissions machines around my area of stations, doin this since 2002...theres no chip, jsut a bar code...you can believe what you want on the chip idea but if anyone was smart they would listen to the motor vehicle inspector typing this lol...
before the stickers get placed on a vehicle, on our computer there is all of the vehicles info from our data site and once we scan the sticker before placement on the window all of the cars info gets registered to that specific sticker..so when your friend got pulled over with his "new" sticker the bar code got scanned...
any other inspection questions???

njlakeshoreg 07-12-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakebite202 (Post 112635)
Maybe the "chip" is to insure that sticker is legit- it doesn't seem like it would make sense for a sitcker to have a "chip" in to store info about a car.

LOL WERD!!!! in NJ, you dont literally pay for the inspection..you pay for it with the payment for the registration, i believe the state pays our private owners"parsons corp" $28 per inspection which comes out of reg fees...
soooo with the $28 plus cost to make the sticker, how cost effective is a second security option for a "chip" or "foil"...just doesnt work...

bigaudiofanat 07-12-2009 10:02 PM

K man LOL K I have seen them and all so whatever chip or bar code they are all registered in the system.

nightfire 07-13-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njlakeshoreg (Post 112772)
i never applied for it but i do know that you are limited to mileage per year, must own the car and i believe it has to qualify for why its being "collected"

That's probably the hard part, how can a 370z be a "collectors car"?

njlakeshoreg 07-14-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfire (Post 113116)
That's probably the hard part, how can a 370z be a "collectors car"?

throw a turbo on it and show reciepts and make it a show car...:tup:

nightfire 07-14-2009 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njlakeshoreg (Post 113617)
throw a turbo on it and show reciepts and make it a show car...:tup:

Nice, good idea! :tup:

dang370z 07-15-2009 08:18 PM

i think if you were to do a supercharger you would get a lot of attention
just because i don't think anyone is working on one at the moment


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