Cheapest FI setup
 

I am gettin the bug to go FI. At the same time my wallet disagrees with spending $8,000+ to get my car boosted. My question is, has anyone gotten a turbo/supercharger setup worked out for less? if so, share your recipe! :driving:

Cheap and forced induction do not go together.
The best you can do is a stage I SC, install yourself and tune. Issue with that though is you will have other extra costs.

Fast, Cheap, reliable. you can only have 2 which means one will have a impact. Do some searching on the forums. This question has been asked multiple times and if your worried about spending that money on a good kit your on the wrong boards. Pretty much as far as I know all use FI people here went with a reputable kit and paid the extra for it

i would love to go with a supercharger, but the swapping of the fuel pump, oil lines, etc.. along with a 24+ hour install time kinda scared me away from doing it myself

A TT install is going to be longer if you do it yourself, especially if you do not drop the motor.
Also, a TT kit requires more with tapping for oil, fuel, etc. Honestly, plan for 10k, it will get you going with a SC setup with some extras or a basic TT setup.

Cheap FI would be trading in your car for mod-friendly factory boosted vehicle :)

Next up is nitrous, and then supercharger. Definitely install it yourself or find friends who are gearheads.

You're right... I'm praying the economy won't tank to the point I'd question my job security for the next few months or years!

already have a factory boosted vehicle. volvo sleeper running 18psi :tup: thats what gave me the idea. however these 370's arent too shabby for an na. might have to just live without boosties. MAYBE i cant have everything i want...

:iagree:My thoughts exactly! If you wanna go cheap, don't do it.

o man electric superchargers. ordering that asap. gettin a NAWS button, and some decals too. I live life a quarter mile at a time... as long as there is no danger to manifold

Like this one?

For the cost of going FI, an LSx swap makes way more sense to me.

Nevermind, though I was on that other Z car forum... Still... The cost of FI on these cars is very steep. If you can't do it right you're only going to run into problems.

that made my day

Go back to school like me. They decided I needed a $12,500 loan for this 2011-2012 year:tup: Stage 2 TT here I come hahahah

http://www.box.net/shared/static/cx9sa6ndte.jpg

Just over a 1/4 mile of extention cord and you are there!

That was so full of awesome

I have been thinking about a Stillen supercharger installed by myself then taking it to Z1 for the tune. Cheapest way out that I have found so far.

STs rear mount turbo

Damn, I was hoping the 'electric supercharger' would bust into flames or something... :(

the sts turbo system definately peeked my interest. install doesn't look like anything too crazy either

same here!

rear mount turbo best bang for the buck. gas milage, sound, power, easy install. the 350z was a breeze and it sounded bad ***.

i wonder why not many people go with this rear mount turbo setup

What does FI stand for ?? (f**king insane??)

Lag, nonoptimal design, excessive piping runs that cause heat droppoff/less power, oiling issues, turbo/piping exposure, intake located under car, weight, theft risk, etc

Fully inebriated
Forced induction

If your looking to save some money, your best bet is to wait it out until somebody sells their kit privately. Most likely save a couple thousand on the kit and still have a quality product.....or go the electric supercharger route!

Because it's ugly? That pipe hanging down from the rear valence kills me.

:icon14: heat dropoff would create more power wouldn't it? i mean lowere ambient inlet temps tend to always equal more power. I figure that cool charge would offset the lag becasue a cooler denser charge can run thru piping quicker

Heat dropped before turbo= less pressure. The piping running to the front is fine, it's the stuff running back that kills you

Everyones gonna have there opinions. The rear mount is a good kit but its either you hate it or ya love it. I like it! I went twin turbo because I want to extract every bit of power I can out of it. Im not happy with mediocre. If ya just want a little power on a budget I personaly would do the supercharger route. Some people like turbos so if your on a budget and you want turbo the rear mount is your only option. At least for now

The biggest downside to rear-mounted turbos is that the standard Cats sometimes gives up the ghost and can damage the turbo (Normal turbo before cats). If I were going rear mounted, I'd go test pipes ar at least hi-flow cats.

Just have to wrap the pipes.

I think GTM's Stage II SC kit has proven that you don't have to get "less power" with a SC... It's more like different power... Turbos spool, then boost and feel great but you've got to stay in the boost. SCs are always there... They give you a linear curve but lack the kick in the pants feeling that abrupt boost creates. That is not to say that one is better than the other... You need to evaluate your goals and budget then go from there.

For the Z34 platform, I say SC. For the Z33... Now that is another story.

Umm wait.. what? <-- that was my reaction when i saw your post, but after I saw your signature, it explained it all.

You know that SC stage2 is no where near turbo stage 1 torque power right?

if maintenance counts, i think SC is cheaper down the road.

The only way to go FI on the cheap is with a used kit, but you need to know what you are doing. I snatched up a slightly used stillen kit and sourced all missing parts + upgrades (pulley/impeller/bypass valve) for roughly $4300.

and than that good man ^ decided he didnt want it and passed it on to me.... how sweet of him!!! lol...

Now I will harass him to help me install it, I plan on after tune to be around 5k which is awesome... All I have to do it send my injectors out to be cleaned and tested... And when my stock clutch blows I will have to replace that... my clutch now only has 1000 miles on it so I'm not gonna just replace it before it goes...

No i wont have 400 tq or 500whp but I will have a healthy amount more than bolt ons and thats fine with me!

Ha ha ha. Yeah man, I know, but it is a significant step over Stage I SC. The point I was trying to make is that it all comes down to personal preference, goals, and budget. My Z is DD for about a year and will see some track days... so the SC made sense for me. Believe me, I have plenty of TT love and maybe one day when she's not the DD I will change it up... I get bored easy :icon17:

I do want to add though that the Stage II kit does come really close to some of the TT numbers. Superior... definitely not, but a worthy alternative. There is also the aspect of the torque curve and such but that's for another thread.

i completely agree with the above post by wwjd stating that maintenence would probably be a lot easier with a sc. i have a turbo'd car currently running 18psi, and i must say that turbo's add a whole new dimension to engine maintenance