Turbo 370z Supercar?

Red__Zed · 07-06-2011, 12:09 PM

100k = pushing it to beat barrel-scraping supercars
300k= enough to beat most "average" supercars

Vinny · 07-06-2011, 12:17 PM

^^ thanks. What I've been trying to say all along.

Lug · 07-06-2011, 12:18 PM

Be all jealous, bitches!

Red__Zed · 07-06-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny

Say what you will, but classification as "supercar" or "race car" at the end of the day is just classification. With enough money invested, you CAN outperform and outhandle a so-called supercar. I would rather spend 100k on my Z and make it unique and mint, and still be able to outperform a good bunch of "supercars".
But this is all my opinion. It all depends on preference. If you want a Ferrari, don't buy a Z and build it to try and be on par with one, just save up and buy a Ferrari.

If you love your z, you can build it (if you're willing and able financially) to beat what you want it to beat.

In the end, when you talk about tuning cars, the Z or any other car for that matter is just a platform. What you do to it, what it ends up being capable of is entirely up to you.

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Originally Posted by Vinny

^^ thaknks. What I've been trying to say all along.

Sure, if the barrel scraping cars from yesterday are "a bunch"

Cmike2780 · 07-06-2011, 12:37 PM

Bro's?

Vinny · 07-06-2011, 12:51 PM

Geez, you're really starting to get annoying. You couldn't just leave it at that? You just said that 300k = beating most average supercars.

Since this whole argument is hypothetical, 100k was a ballpark estimate. I didn't sit down and take the time to calculate exactly how much it would cost, because it doesn't matter, I don't have 100k to spend on a car at this point.

The point of the matter is, you can spend an amount of money (regardless what that amount is) and compete with or beat a good amount of supercars with the Z, as you just said.

Now please leave it alone, this is getting pointless and frustrating. You're agreeing with my argument, but then picking a few words out of an earlier post and mocking it. No matter how you cut and slice it, the fact remains: you CAN make the Z beat supercars, if money is no object. Maybe not all of them, but you can still beat supercars. That's what I've been saying from the beginning, and that still holds true.

Red__Zed · 07-06-2011, 12:53 PM

Yes. That is also what I said that you disagreed with.

You claimed 100k would be enough to beat "a bunch" of supercars, which isn't even what this thread is about....

Vinny · 07-06-2011, 12:55 PM

Hey Red, found you! ---> YouTube - ‪Family Guy kevin bacon was'nt in footloose‬&rlm;

pty370z · 07-06-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Be all jealous, bitches!

I've read all along this thread and I didn't feel like making a comment until I saw this..

I WANT!

Econ · 07-06-2011, 01:20 PM

....so is a turbo z a supercar or not?

Red__Zed · 07-06-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Econ

....so is a turbo z a supercar or not?

It's apparently an ubercar, sharing the rarified upper stratos with the mythical Bugatti. If you have enough money

b1adesofcha0s · 07-06-2011, 01:26 PM

You guys just keep arguing the same point

First of all, the definition of supercar is subjective in the first place and different to each person. Then classifying what car is or is not a supercar adds another level of personal opinion into it. In the end though, they're all just opinions so they don't matter

Obviously you can dump a ton of money into any car and have it beat a "supercar" at certain things (drag strip, road course, etc). I think what Red was trying to say before is that "supercars" which are built as supercars have gone through the R&D to make them not just good in one aspect, but all aspects including looks, exclusivity, drivability, comfort, quality, reliability, etc. IMO those things are part of what makes a supercar a supercar. Like someone else said, you can put 1000 hp onto a civic, but I would never call it a supercar because it's still a civic. I would consider a Z with SC/TT a high performance sports car, but not a supercar.

Vinny · 07-06-2011, 01:38 PM

+1, completely agree. I don't think a Z will ever be a supercar, my argument was that you could make it outperform some cars that are considered supercars.

People have different opinions sometimes.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-06-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny

+1, completely agree. I don't think a Z will ever be a supercar, my argument was that you could make it outperform some cars that are considered supercars.

People have different opinions sometimes.

Or just argue with each other over the same opinion

Brutal 370Z · 07-06-2011, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

You guys just keep arguing the same point

First of all, the definition of supercar is subjective in the first place and different to each person. Then classifying what car is or is not a supercar adds another level of personal opinion into it. In the end though, they're all just opinions so they don't matter

Obviously you can dump a ton of money into any car and have it beat a "supercar" at certain things (drag strip, road course, etc). I think what Red was trying to say before is that "supercars" which are built as supercars have gone through the R&D to make them not just good in one aspect, but all aspects including looks, exclusivity, drivability, comfort, quality, reliability, etc. IMO those things are part of what makes a supercar a supercar. Like someone else said, you can put 1000 hp onto a civic, but I would never call it a supercar because it's still a civic. I would consider a Z with SC/TT a high performance sports car, but not a supercar.

07-06-2011, 12:17 PM	#62 (permalink)
Vinny Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Montreal, Qc Posts: 246 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z tt Rep Power: 15	^^ thanks. What I've been trying to say all along. __________________ 540whp @ 10.5 psi

07-06-2011, 12:18 PM	#63 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 19	Be all jealous, bitches! __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

07-06-2011, 12:37 PM	#65 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Bro's? __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

07-06-2011, 12:51 PM	#66 (permalink)
Vinny Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Montreal, Qc Posts: 246 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z tt Rep Power: 15	Geez, you're really starting to get annoying. You couldn't just leave it at that? You just said that 300k = beating most average supercars. Since this whole argument is hypothetical, 100k was a ballpark estimate. I didn't sit down and take the time to calculate exactly how much it would cost, because it doesn't matter, I don't have 100k to spend on a car at this point. The point of the matter is, you can spend an amount of money (regardless what that amount is) and compete with or beat a good amount of supercars with the Z, as you just said. Now please leave it alone, this is getting pointless and frustrating. You're agreeing with my argument, but then picking a few words out of an earlier post and mocking it. No matter how you cut and slice it, the fact remains: you CAN make the Z beat supercars, if money is no object. Maybe not all of them, but you can still beat supercars. That's what I've been saying from the beginning, and that still holds true. __________________ 540whp @ 10.5 psi

07-06-2011, 12:55 PM	#68 (permalink)
Vinny Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Montreal, Qc Posts: 246 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z tt Rep Power: 15	Hey Red, found you! ---> YouTube - ‪Family Guy kevin bacon was'nt in footloose‬&rlm; __________________ 540whp @ 10.5 psi

07-06-2011, 12:09 PM	#61 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	100k = pushing it to beat barrel-scraping supercars 300k= enough to beat most "average" supercars

07-06-2011, 12:53 PM	#67 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Yes. That is also what I said that you disagreed with. You claimed 100k would be enough to beat "a bunch" of supercars, which isn't even what this thread is about....

07-06-2011, 01:20 PM	#70 (permalink)
Econ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York City Posts: 2,546 Drives: Fiat? Rep Power: 19	....so is a turbo z a supercar or not? __________________ 2014 Triumph Thruxton 900 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth 2009 Nissan 370z

07-06-2011, 01:26 PM	#72 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	You guys just keep arguing the same point First of all, the definition of supercar is subjective in the first place and different to each person. Then classifying what car is or is not a supercar adds another level of personal opinion into it. In the end though, they're all just opinions so they don't matter Obviously you can dump a ton of money into any car and have it beat a "supercar" at certain things (drag strip, road course, etc). I think what Red was trying to say before is that "supercars" which are built as supercars have gone through the R&D to make them not just good in one aspect, but all aspects including looks, exclusivity, drivability, comfort, quality, reliability, etc. IMO those things are part of what makes a supercar a supercar. Like someone else said, you can put 1000 hp onto a civic, but I would never call it a supercar because it's still a civic. I would consider a Z with SC/TT a high performance sports car, but not a supercar. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

07-06-2011, 01:38 PM	#73 (permalink)
Vinny Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Montreal, Qc Posts: 246 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z tt Rep Power: 15	+1, completely agree. I don't think a Z will ever be a supercar, my argument was that you could make it outperform some cars that are considered supercars. People have different opinions sometimes. __________________ 540whp @ 10.5 psi

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