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Kirkster 06-17-2011 06:31 AM

ARF bung placement???
 
Where should I put my bung in for my AFR, I am only putting one AFR in.

I am currently keeping my stock cats. I may just buy a used factory passenger cat (the demon bolt is on the drivers side right?) so I can get it done at my leisure.

Anyone have pictures that has done this???

K

esfourteen 06-17-2011 10:42 AM

I'm wondering if we can't just use the rear O2 bungs (after cat) for custom widebands. With uprev the rear O2's can be disabled so they should no longer be necessary, but I am not 100% sure here.

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1174637)
Where should I put my bung in for my AFR, I am only putting one AFR in.

I am currently keeping my stock cats. I may just buy a used factory passenger cat (the demon bolt is on the drivers side right?) so I can get it done at my leisure.

Anyone have pictures that has done this???

K


Lug 06-17-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1174637)
Where should I put my bung in for my AFR

1 forum maturity check coming up! :D

Kirkster 06-17-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 1174944)
1 forum maturity check coming up! :D

This is not the Mid-A section of the forum so I should be good for another hour or so before Mustang or Shadow find this post...

Kirkster 06-17-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 1174942)
I'm wondering if we can't just use the rear O2 bungs (after cat) for custom widebands. With uprev the rear O2's can be disabled so they should no longer be necessary, but I am not 100% sure here.

I am pretty sure that they are still in use at this time as they were things that Sam had me logging.

esfourteen 06-17-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1174957)
I am pretty sure that they are still in use at this time as they were things that Sam had me logging.

I thought the primary O2's were the widebands (before cat), and the secondary O2's were just to check for cat malfunction.

Kirkster 06-17-2011 11:20 AM

Could be right. I am a F.I. Newb...

weiboy718 06-17-2011 12:32 PM

When I did a oil change the other day, I saw where Sam welded a bung in. It's located more to the top of the cat pipe on the passenger side of course before the cat's.

esfourteen 06-17-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1175128)
When I did a oil change the other day, I saw where Sam welded a bung in. It's located more to the top of the cat pipe on the passenger side of course before the cat's.

Yep closest to exhaust always gets you most accurate AFR. On a turbo car you can't place them as close without a spacer/heat sink due to the heat but with SC you should be able to put them as close to the header/manifold as you want.

Kirkster 06-17-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1175128)
When I did a oil change the other day, I saw where Sam welded a bung in. It's located more to the top of the cat pipe on the passenger side of course before the cat's.

Cool. I just have to get it welded in now...

Should get it done next week sometime...

stells370 06-17-2011 12:44 PM

on my 07 civic si (supercharged) i welded mine about 3 inches from where the header bolted up and never had any issues, i know its not the same car but im sure its the same idea hope that helps

weiboy718 06-17-2011 12:53 PM

Well, this isn't a civic lol where the headers are clearly visible and accessible whereas our car's headers are deep

Neo187H 06-17-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 1174942)
I'm wondering if we can't just use the rear O2 bungs (after cat) for custom widebands. With uprev the rear O2's can be disabled so they should no longer be necessary, but I am not 100% sure here.

The wideband will need to be before cats, after the cats won't give a correct reading.

esfourteen 06-17-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo187H (Post 1175250)
The wideband will need to be before cats, after the cats won't give a correct reading.

yeah for people with cats thats true, a new bung before the cat is best. I have test pipes so I am mostly just wondering if I can fully remove those rear O2's now that they are disabled.

1slow370 06-18-2011 02:58 AM

i have gtm test pipes so i already have two extra bungs 6 sensor FTW (until the break)

stells370 06-18-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1175160)
Well, this isn't a civic lol where the headers are clearly visible and accessible whereas our car's headers are deep

nor were the headers on my civic (07 with a k20) headers were close firewall and had to remove cowling to get to them

weiboy718 06-18-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stells370 (Post 1177356)
nor were the headers on my civic (07 with a k20) headers were close firewall and had to remove cowling to get to them

guess they changed their design over the years. i just remembered my first car that was a 94 civic the headers was right in front lol. my bad.

stells370 06-20-2011 08:04 AM

its all good :tiphat:

1slow370 06-21-2011 07:02 AM

depends on which civic your talking i believe all theD+B'series are in front and since that is the most popular (by number) motor weiboy is right. Besides the civic's are getting slower every year now they keep making them alot heavier and the SI only gained 9ish hp

Kirkster 06-22-2011 04:14 PM

Installed on the drivers side...

Just the bung
http://www.the370z.com/members/kirks...de-install.jpg

Bung with sensor
http://www.the370z.com/members/kirks...-installed.jpg

weiboy718 06-22-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1184257)

That's weird! How come Sam welded mines on the passenger side?:confused:

Kirkster 06-22-2011 05:32 PM

Does not much matter which side. We just decided that it would be easier to get things through on the drivers side. All my electronic units from PLX are going over there near the fuse box.

weiboy718 06-22-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1184451)
Does not much matter which side. We just decided that it would be easier to get things through on the drivers side. All my electronic units from PLX are going over there near the fuse box.

i thought it does matter which bank. if i remember correctly one side reads differ than the other. correct me if i'm wrong.


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