What MOD next? TT or SC?

Mr.Squeeze · 07-08-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

Hmm, how much power those evos put on the ground with bigger turbo?

It all depends on witch Evo and turbo evo 8/9 can push more on stock blocks than the newer evo 10's.They can make 400-500whp depending on witch turbo they choose ,500whp would be pushing it on a stock block evo 8/9.I have a friend that has a evo 8 build motor 550whp low boost just for the street on a 35R turbo his high boost is 725whp.There isnt even a 370z that has even come close to making that much power.

RCZ · 07-08-2011, 12:28 PM

The Evo has been around forever though, we will get there. Also, I kinda disagree that a lightly modded evo will keep up with a 400whp 370z. Lightly modded is probably like stage 2, maybe 350whp. I've been in many evos at varying stages of power. Driven them stock, stage 2, and with a 30R and 450whp. I think It would be a nice race with a 30R evo8/9 and a SC 370z. Of course they can ramp up the boost, but they still have pretty bad lag from the 2.0. Hell they lag bad even with the miniature stock turbos.

Pelican170 · 07-08-2011, 03:40 PM

If the GTM S/C claims 550 hp, wouldnt that add up to more than 400 whp on the car? just curious but I thought the conversion was roughly 15% from fly to wheels....

haddy98 · 07-08-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

No need to upgrade the tranny if its a manual 6 speed.All you would need is a clutch and CSC upgrade if you have a auto thats a different story.

To the OP what is your budget and power goal's ? A SC 370 with 400whp will hang and beat a lightly modded evo. But if one of your friends decides to go get a bigger turbo your going to need more.

My budget range is only up till the S/C kit. The turbo kit is out of my budget. Currently I'm on 316.5 whp with HKS exhaust and custom test pipes. My goal is to reach at least 400whp on my 370.

haddy98 · 07-08-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

If the GTM S/C claims 550 hp, wouldnt that add up to more than 400 whp on the car? just curious but I thought the conversion was roughly 15% from fly to wheels....

I'm curious how the conversion is with the hp and whp. I know it's different for auto and manual transmission.

buddahson · 07-09-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

If the GTM S/C claims 550 hp, wouldnt that add up to more than 400 whp on the car? just curious but I thought the conversion was roughly 15% from fly to wheels....

You are correct that drivetrain loss is somewhere between 15% - 17% on a manual transmission Z. The big part you are missing is the torque difference between a tt and sc Z. The hp numbers are similar but the sc makes power higher up in the rev range. TT makes power in the middle of the power band and makes more torque.

HP = (Torque x RPM) / 5252

In general torque is king in a drag race. HP comes in to play at top speeds. In short if both a tt Z and a sc Z have 550hp, the tt Z will have more torque and be faster in a straight line. The benefit to me of the sc is that the power curve resembles that of a stock Z and retains driveablity on a road coarse.

07-08-2011, 12:28 PM	#32 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	The Evo has been around forever though, we will get there. Also, I kinda disagree that a lightly modded evo will keep up with a 400whp 370z. Lightly modded is probably like stage 2, maybe 350whp. I've been in many evos at varying stages of power. Driven them stock, stage 2, and with a 30R and 450whp. I think It would be a nice race with a 30R evo8/9 and a SC 370z. Of course they can ramp up the boost, but they still have pretty bad lag from the 2.0. Hell they lag bad even with the miniature stock turbos.

07-08-2011, 03:40 PM	#33 (permalink)
Pelican170 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 972 Drives: Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 16	If the GTM S/C claims 550 hp, wouldnt that add up to more than 400 whp on the car? just curious but I thought the conversion was roughly 15% from fly to wheels....