Nissan 370Z Forum  

Can it handle it??

I have an '09 Nismo 370Z and am considering installing the new supercharger system from Stillen. My question is how many out there have experience with this kind of modification

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-10-2011, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
UltraIron1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 8
Drives: 2009 Nismo 370Z
Rep Power: 15
UltraIron1 is on a distinguished road
Default Can it handle it??

I have an '09 Nismo 370Z and am considering installing the new supercharger system from Stillen. My question is how many out there have experience with this kind of modification and how do the rest of the system components on the Z handle the added horsepower and torque? I definitely like the idea of the added power but don't want to turn my Z into a breakdown and repair nightmare.

UltraIron1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2011, 01:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
WFLYIDNNE
 
XwChriswX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: In The Fastlane
Posts: 50,648
Drives: 02 GDB WRX
Rep Power: 452
XwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond reputeXwChriswX has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Before everyone else pounces on you, I highly recommend using the 'Search' feature on the forum.



You've been warned.
__________________

Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall!
R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14
XwChriswX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2011, 01:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
Track Member
 
tomnavone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: S.F. Bay Area
Posts: 723
Drives: Supercharged 370z
Rep Power: 17
tomnavone is a jewel in the roughtomnavone is a jewel in the roughtomnavone is a jewel in the roughtomnavone is a jewel in the rough
Default

And search gtm supercharger while you're at it
__________________
GTM Supercharger/HKS Camp2/Berk cbe/Motordyne art pipes/Hotchkis sways/ Eibach Springs/ Black Volk TE37/Bridgestone S-04
Powered by
tomnavone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2011, 02:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Nixlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,235
Drives: 15 GT-R / 11 Prius
Rep Power: 26
Nixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond reputeNixlimited has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yes, tons of information on FI and 370Z in this forum already. To give you the ultra-high level overview: the consensus seems to be that the stock block is safe to 450ish WHP. This is at best an educated guess based on the smallish number of FI 370Zs out there with significant mileage. The GTM stage 1 kit makes about 400ish WHP and the as yet to be released stage 2 makes 475ish WHP. I have seen the Stillen kit make in a range of 400-475ish WHP, though some of the higher numbers were with custom tunes and upgraded SC units. I have driven the GTM stage 1 car and loved it, and I plan to go stage 1 or potentially stage 2 once I can find a car to buy.

I should add that another concern with FI 370Zs is cooling. The engine tends to run pretty hot. Plan on investing in an oil cooler and potentially upgrading other cooling system components. The stock clutch seems to hold up pretty well, but will need replacing eventually so count on that as well.

Last edited by Nixlimited; 06-10-2011 at 02:44 PM.
Nixlimited is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2011, 06:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dont Worry Bout It...
Posts: 333
Drives: 09 370Z NismoTT
Rep Power: 16
Nismo370 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Nismo370
Default

Don't get that junk go Twins you'll be much happier...
__________________
GTM Twin Turbo 583whp 468trq Uncorrected @ 12psi.
Nismo370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2011, 07:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SPOHN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Covington, GA
Age: 45
Posts: 14,844
Drives: Waiting on next Z
Rep Power: 221
SPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Do not get the Stillen kit!!! Go GTM.
__________________
SPOHN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2011, 11:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
esfourteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: LI, NY
Posts: 1,375
Drives: 40th TT
Rep Power: 18
esfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to esfourteen
Default

the bias on the forums is so strong, it's sad.
esfourteen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2011, 01:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
Base Member
 
dal1307's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 118
Drives: 08 G37S 5AT
Rep Power: 14
dal1307 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by esfourteen View Post
the bias on the forums is so strong, it's sad.
I agree, especially bad when it is coming from people who have no personal experience with either option.
__________________
2008 G37s 5AT, Stillen SC, Stillen CBE, Stillen tranny cooler, DBA 5000 front/4000 rear, Stillen sways, Tein SS-P coilovers, SPC front & rear control arms, Goodridge lines
dal1307 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2011, 09:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
Base Member
 
ZInferno0248's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 154
Drives: 2010 370Z Nismo SC'd
Rep Power: 14
ZInferno0248 will become famous soon enough
Default

I have a 2010 nismo (7000 miles) with a GTM stage 1 SC. I had it installed recently and really like the kit. My only issue was that it took about two months for GTM to send it out, after I paid for it. (I haven't posted the info in the finished build section yet, but will as soon as I have time). I got 390.3 WHP with 323.4 FtLb of torque at 7000 rpm on a Dyno Dynamics dyno (It was 90 degrees that day). I also installed a oil cooler, resonated test pipes, and got a custom tune.
My car was totally transformed by these mods. It is a blast to drive. The SC kit fits the car so well, it almost looks stock. I believe your car gets cut up a lot more with the Stillen kit. As far as reliability, time will tell. My advice would be to think carefully about which kit you pick, do your research, find a good tuning shop, and go for it. A large increase in power will always = less longevity, but I think having a car that stands out from the rest is worth it.

Last edited by ZInferno0248; 06-11-2011 at 09:53 AM.
ZInferno0248 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2011, 10:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Osiris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: http://www.cfzclub.com/
Posts: 1,524
Drives: Angry
Rep Power: 19
Osiris will become famous soon enough
Default

GTM FTW. and yes, i am bias.
__________________

^^^^^^^^^Like our Facebook!^^^^^^^^^
Osiris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2011, 10:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SPOHN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Covington, GA
Age: 45
Posts: 14,844
Drives: Waiting on next Z
Rep Power: 221
SPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dal1307 View Post
I agree, especially bad when it is coming from people who have no personal experience with either option.
What experience do you have to have to recognize junk. It was junk in the 350Z era. I've been around more than enough to know. Seen it first hand.

I have no personal experience eating crap but I know to stay away from it.
__________________

Last edited by SPOHN; 06-11-2011 at 10:50 AM.
SPOHN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2011, 11:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
esfourteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: LI, NY
Posts: 1,375
Drives: 40th TT
Rep Power: 18
esfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud ofesfourteen has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to esfourteen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPOHN View Post
What experience do you have to have to recognize junk. It was junk in the 350Z era. I've been around more than enough to know. Seen it first hand.

I have no personal experience eating crap but I know to stay away from it.
The term "junk" is being used in this thread, please can someone elaborate on what exactly is junk about the stillen kit?

The tune that comes with it is obviously not the best tune you can get, they are going after that CARB approval after all so its certainly not as aggressive. People run it never the less and their cars work perfectly fine. Some people have experienced drivability issues (after the car is warm for example), but the same is true for GTM kits as well, its all about the tune there. I personally wouldn't run any unit without a dyno tune but that comes from bad experiences with canned tunes.

The vortech V3 is a great blower and multiple power levels are attainable by changing pullies/impeller. In stock form it makes similar power to a stage 1 gtm, when modified it has made numbers closer to the new stage 2 gtm. The limit to power with this blower is what the engine and IC setup can handle, not the unit itself. Is 400-500hp "junk"?

The intercooler is a very efficient air-water setup built into the intake manifold, this is probably the only "weak" point if you wanted to run big power with this car (more power then the stock block can handle). The compact design makes it incredibly easy to install and no FMIC blocking air flow to oil coolers/radiator. Another benefit is the lack of heat soak when stopped as the water is constantly being pumped through the heat exchanger/IC.
esfourteen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2011, 12:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
Lug
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,926
Drives: 2006 350Z
Rep Power: 19
Lug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to beholdLug is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPOHN View Post
It was junk in the 350Z era.
wow
__________________
keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs
Lug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2011, 01:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
98intrigue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Clearwater, FL
Age: 39
Posts: 4,855
Drives: 2014 Viper
Rep Power: 430
98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute98intrigue has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to 98intrigue
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by esfourteen View Post
the bias on the forums is so strong, it's sad.
I agree. I don't have anything bad to say about GTM, but I don't like when people hate on something they don't have first hand experience with. Stillen has been around for a long time and have a relationship with Nissan/Infiniti with dealers installing their kits...so i wouldn't say their kits are junk. Are there pros/cons of each kit? Yes...but I wouldn't say one or the other is junk.
__________________
Ryan - 2014 Stryker Green Viper
Gone - a few Vipers and a couple turbo VQs
98intrigue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2011, 02:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Osiris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: http://www.cfzclub.com/
Posts: 1,524
Drives: Angry
Rep Power: 19
Osiris will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 98intrigue View Post
I agree. I don't have anything bad to say about GTM, but I don't like when people hate on something they don't have first hand experience with. Stillen has been around for a long time and have a relationship with Nissan/Infiniti with dealers installing their kits...so i wouldn't say their kits are junk. Are there pros/cons of each kit? Yes...but I wouldn't say one or the other is junk.
roughly $7-8k for 282 ft lb torque. Price to power ratio sucks. Junk is not an accurate term, maybe lackluster would be better. The car runs, it is stable, it will pull good numbers on the dyno....but due to the low torque, the low end power is only just slightly more than a stock 370. The GTM kit, however, seems to have better torque numbers from what i read.

I have run my car down 1/4 mile against stock 370's and i only beat them by .3 seconds. Granted, if i were using slicks, i may get a full second faster.
__________________

^^^^^^^^^Like our Facebook!^^^^^^^^^

Last edited by Osiris; 06-11-2011 at 02:23 PM.
Osiris is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DIY-Door handle removal bumblez DIY Section (Do-It-Yourself) 104 09-29-2017 08:00 PM
Door handle rattles from outside...anyone? zaust Exterior & Interior 1 02-27-2012 04:21 PM
handle noise?? shl468 Nissan 370Z Warranty / Scheduled Maintenance / Servicing / Repairs 0 06-02-2010 11:45 PM
Help with handle scratches boomboom Exterior & Interior 2 05-05-2010 12:34 AM
How much WHP will the 7spd AT handle stock? CGMobile370Z Engine & Drivetrain 1 03-21-2010 11:31 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2