How much power do you think is safe on stock internals?

RCZ · 05-22-2011, 01:09 PM

Hey guys, just taking a poll to see what people think is safe and what isn't. If you would like to add why and under what circumstances, that would be appreciated. Keep it civil please.

Also, lets talk dynojet numbers so we can all be on the same page and since both GTM and Stillen use them.

dixon cider · 05-22-2011, 01:22 PM

I'd say 500 if you don't drive it like you stole it.

A.J@CarbonSignal · 05-22-2011, 01:31 PM

450whp if you drive it hard and 500whp if you barely get on it. Of course keeping in mind tune is spot on

Blue370tt · 05-22-2011, 01:48 PM

FYI for those voting 450 whp.....most of us TT guys have been running around with more than that for over a year.

The dyno photo in my photos was after my first tune and no longer accurate. I have been closer to 500 whp for over 6 months.

G37sHKS · 05-22-2011, 01:51 PM

Stock power

Brazilbro · 05-22-2011, 01:57 PM

I voted 600whp because I was voting for how much hp it would take to blow the bottom end

G37sHKS · 05-22-2011, 02:36 PM

Guys you need to realize something, if stock can handle 600 HP that doesnt mean that we can go for that route.. comn, give the engine a break...

500 WHP is idle.. anything more than that you are risking it...

jnaut · 05-22-2011, 02:45 PM

450 "safe level" but there a lot a variables as altitude , temp, driving habits, plus some motors are stronger than others

Q8y_drifter · 05-22-2011, 05:54 PM

I'd say around 450whp with a generous margin of error (by that i mean atmosphere, driving style, etc.)

Nismo370 · 05-22-2011, 05:54 PM

500whp is the safe limit for these motors I personally think. Remember these motors arent like the older 350Z's motors where they make a lot of torque. Remember its the torque that destroys the motors not the power.

NewYorkJon34 · 05-22-2011, 06:39 PM

The Z runs an 11:0:1 compression ratio which is not the best for forced induction of any kind. I know there are many Z owners driving around with 450-500whp but the real question is "for how long?" I personality will be upgrading to the GTM stage 1 shortblock, and will feel much more comfortable about driving my car. I'm shooting for alil over 550whp.

m4a1mustang · 05-22-2011, 06:55 PM

I'm a little on the conservative side and say 400whp is truly "safe." But the question is definitely a little vague as the definition of "safe" is really open to interpretation.

RCZ · 05-22-2011, 07:08 PM

Where you dont have to worry about flogging it because you think its on the verge of letting go.

jnaut · 05-22-2011, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm a little on the conservative side and say 400whp is truly "safe." But the question is definitely a little vague as the definition of "safe" is really open to interpretation.

This true as we are all saying what we have read, have been told or just what we "think" is safe. Only thing that is forsure is that time will tell what the safe level actually is.

NewYorkJon34 · 05-22-2011, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnaut

This true as we are all saying what we have read, have been told or just what we "think" is safe. Only thing that is forsure is that time will tell what the safe level actually is.

J, check ur PM

View Poll Results: What is the WHP ceiling of stock internals?
400WHP	16	8.51%
450WHP	50	26.60%
500WHP	64	34.04%
550WHP	33	17.55%
600WHP	25	13.30%
Voters: 188. You may not vote on this poll

05-22-2011, 01:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	How much power do you think is safe on stock internals? Hey guys, just taking a poll to see what people think is safe and what isn't. If you would like to add why and under what circumstances, that would be appreciated. Keep it civil please. Also, lets talk dynojet numbers so we can all be on the same page and since both GTM and Stillen use them.

05-22-2011, 01:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
dixon cider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: STL Posts: 6,034 Drives: ONE BAD AZZ VERT Rep Power: 30	I'd say 500 if you don't drive it like you stole it. __________________ GTM INVIDIA MRWorks (RIP) Snow Performance Giken KW Hotchkis SRP "Remember, when all else fails, don't forget to tongue punch the brown starfish"-dixon Dixon Cider's Roadster Build

05-22-2011, 01:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
A.J@CarbonSignal Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dubai Posts: 581 Drives: '05 TT350z, '07 Z06 Rep Power: 16	450whp if you drive it hard and 500whp if you barely get on it. Of course keeping in mind tune is spot on __________________ CarbonSignal Automotive *Facebook*

05-22-2011, 01:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	I voted 600whp because I was voting for how much hp it would take to blow the bottom end __________________ Juke AWD/240Z SR20 08 Evo 10(Stage 2) SOLD Fastest Sport 6spd 370Z 11.8 @126.5SOLD

05-22-2011, 01:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Blue370tt Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 279 Drives: Nissan Juke Rep Power: 14	FYI for those voting 450 whp.....most of us TT guys have been running around with more than that for over a year. The dyno photo in my photos was after my first tune and no longer accurate. I have been closer to 500 whp for over 6 months.

05-22-2011, 01:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 20	Stock power

05-22-2011, 02:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 20	Guys you need to realize something, if stock can handle 600 HP that doesnt mean that we can go for that route.. comn, give the engine a break... 500 WHP is idle.. anything more than that you are risking it...

05-22-2011, 02:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
jnaut A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: wpb, fl Posts: 1,146 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	450 "safe level" but there a lot a variables as altitude , temp, driving habits, plus some motors are stronger than others __________________ Best 1/4 mile 12.24 Best mph 114.5_______

05-22-2011, 05:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 15	I'd say around 450whp with a generous margin of error (by that i mean atmosphere, driving style, etc.) __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

05-22-2011, 05:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nismo370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dont Worry Bout It... Posts: 333 Drives: 09 370Z NismoTT Rep Power: 16	500whp is the safe limit for these motors I personally think. Remember these motors arent like the older 350Z's motors where they make a lot of torque. Remember its the torque that destroys the motors not the power. __________________ GTM Twin Turbo 583whp 468trq Uncorrected @ 12psi.

05-22-2011, 06:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	The Z runs an 11:0:1 compression ratio which is not the best for forced induction of any kind. I know there are many Z owners driving around with 450-500whp but the real question is "for how long?" I personality will be upgrading to the GTM stage 1 shortblock, and will feel much more comfortable about driving my car. I'm shooting for alil over 550whp. __________________ NewYorkJon34's Ultimate Z Build Last edited by NewYorkJon34; 05-29-2011 at 03:03 PM.

05-22-2011, 06:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I'm a little on the conservative side and say 400whp is truly "safe." But the question is definitely a little vague as the definition of "safe" is really open to interpretation. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

05-22-2011, 07:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Where you dont have to worry about flogging it because you think its on the verge of letting go.

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