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Keep in mind the stillen manifold contains it's own air-to-liquid intercooler, and seeing as you already have an intercooler, it would just be unnecessary pressure drop. Unless you somehow removed

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Old 06-13-2011, 01:20 AM   #526 (permalink)
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Keep in mind the stillen manifold contains it's own air-to-liquid intercooler, and seeing as you already have an intercooler, it would just be unnecessary pressure drop. Unless you somehow removed that part. I haven't seen inside one, don't know if you can just pop out that heat exchanger.
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Keep in mind the stillen manifold contains it's own air-to-liquid intercooler, and seeing as you already have an intercooler, it would just be unnecessary pressure drop. Unless you somehow removed that part. I haven't seen inside one, don't know if you can just pop out that heat exchanger.

You can take the it out of the manifold.
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:10 PM   #528 (permalink)
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I read the thread and here is my take on it, it's not very good.

In my opinion single turbo kits belong on inline motors and a V6 with 2 headers and dual intake inlets belongs to a twin turbo kit which is why it had soo many problems. VQ35DEs have only 1 intake inlet and 1 MAF so they fair better but it still belongs to a TT kit. I have no doubt the people who made the kit are professionals in BMWs, but they let you roll with air in the cooling system which is a notorious nuisance on a VQ without coolant bypass mods, which would be my next mod if it was my car and I believe the only lines to remove are the ones from the throttle bodies on the VQ37, and since you are a former owner of a G35 you should have suspected there was air in it because of the high temps. This could have ended badly. I also noticed the problem with the PS line in the pics before reading the system went, another downside to having crossover pipes and up pipes and such on a V6.

Another thing I will say is that I don't believe in the idea of a single being better or less of an equal to a TT kit in power delivery. Sound Performance was making power from 3K RPMs all the way to 9K RPMs on their shop 350z with a TT kit using the same turbo you have. Another guy with a Greddy TT kit was making power over 8K RPMs a while ago on my350z and I believe it was AAM who built it or GTM.

I might sound like hard *** and a douche bag but that's my take on it. I do like the welds and the kit and the piping and everything, but only if it was on a inline motor.

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I read the thread and here is my take on it, it's not very good.


I might sound like hard *** and a douche bag but that's my take on it.
Wow you made an account just to bash on this build?
oh and
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I read the thread and here is my take on it, it's not very good.

In my opinion single turbo kits belong on inline motors and a V6 with 2 headers and dual intake inlets belongs to a twin turbo kit which is why it had soo many problems. VQ35DEs have only 1 intake inlet and 1 MAF so they fair better but it still belongs to a TT kit. I have no doubt the people who made the kit are professionals in BMWs, but they let you roll with air in the cooling system which is a notorious nuisance on a VQ without coolant bypass mods, which would be my next mod if it was my car and I believe the only lines to remove are the ones from the throttle bodies on the VQ37, and since you are a former owner of a G35 you should have suspected there was air in it because of the high temps. This could have ended badly. I also noticed the power steering line being too close to that PS pipe before I read the system went.

Another thing I will say is that I don't believe in the idea of a single being better or less of an equal to a TT kit in power delivery. Sound Performance was making power from 3K RPMs all the way to 9K RPMs on their shop 350z with a TT kit using the same turbo you have.

I might sound like hard *** and a douche bag but that's my take on it. I do like the welds and the kit and the piping and everything, but only if it was on a inline motor.
Oh, I totally agree with you...twin turbos are much more ideal for this motor than a single turbo. I just prefer the power delivery, sound, and the fact that no one else has it. I like being an innovator and I like being different.

I suspected air in the coolant system from the beginning. It was noted and fixed right away with the addition of a custom overflow tank, since the OEM one had to be removed due to space constraints. Since then, the overheating issues have been solved...except for when the car sits at idle in traffic for more than a few minutes with the AC on. As soon as I get moving, the temps go back down.

I never noticed the PS line being so close, so that's partly my fault I guess. I learned everything from my previous G35. So this car is another learning process. The line was wrapped with what looked to be a DEI cold wrap, but the uppipe burnt through it and the PS line. Now there is a fire retardant wrap on the hose. Hopefully it will be ok. This is something I should check every oil change...and I will.
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Oh, I totally agree with you...twin turbos are much more ideal for this motor than a single turbo. I just prefer the power delivery, sound, and the fact that no one else has it. I like being an innovator and I like being different.

I suspected air in the coolant system from the beginning. It was noted and fixed right away with the addition of a custom overflow tank, since the OEM one had to be removed due to space constraints. Since then, the overheating issues have been solved...except for when the car sits at idle in traffic for more than a few minutes with the AC on. As soon as I get moving, the temps go back down.

I never noticed the PS line being so close, so that's partly my fault I guess. I learned everything from my previous G35. So this car is another learning process. The line was wrapped with what looked to be a DEI cold wrap, but the uppipe burnt through it and the PS line. Now there is a fire retardant wrap on the hose. Hopefully it will be ok. This is something I should check every oil change...and I will.



also, being different ftw.
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Wow you made an account just to bash on this build?
oh and
You can call it constructive criticism. Bashing it would be deploring it without anything to back it all up. It's still better than no boost at all and it works okay now as far as we know.
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You can call it constructive criticism. Bashing it would be deploring it without anything to back it all up. It's still better than no boost at all and it works okay now as far as we know.
I agree...it was constructive criticism and not bashing. I take constructive criticism kindly because I'm here to learn just like everyone else. I like to learn from people and hopefully people can learn from my build as well. I'm by no means an expert.
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You can call it constructive criticism. Bashing it would be deploring it without anything to back it all up. It's still better than no boost at all and it works okay now as far as we know.
have you seen a subaru motor? Same concept with 2 less cylinders.

MAF placement is so easy to get around.

Running the MAF's before the turbo is more ideal.

Either way cylinders have nothing to do with running a single turbo.
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Hey Ryan it was nice to meet you at ZdayZ. Just spent the last 2 hours reding the thread. Very awesome build. Hope all your troubles are behind ya.

I am almost done with my gtm supercharger install. Waiting on 2 parts from them so i can fill up the fluids and then i will be another boosted 40th.
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[QUOTE=zzdudaka;1176369]Hey Ryan it was nice to meet you at ZdayZ. Just spent the last 2 hours reding the thread. Very awesome build. Hope all your troubles are behind ya.

I am almost done with my gtm supercharger install. Waiting on 2 parts from them so i can fill up the fluids and then i will be another boosted 40th.[/QUOTE

Were you missing stuff from the box?
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have you seen a subaru motor? Same concept with 2 less cylinders.

MAF placement is so easy to get around.

Running the MAF's before the turbo is more ideal.

Either way cylinders have nothing to do with running a single turbo.
But that is a flat 4 cylinder with 1 intake inlet. If the car has 2 cylinder banks, 2 intake inlets and 2 MAFs it would be better off with 2 turbos.

Symmetry in my point of view equals reliability and I like the way symmetry looks too. But if it works now it's all that matters.
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It was nice to meet you Saturday the car is amazing and I can see you take care and maintain it very well. Dispite the few small problems your having this is a build you should be very proud of.

We will need to hang out sometime in the future.
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