Very unlikely. JWT tried everything, and was unsuccessful at getting CARB expemption, as was APS.

Wow that really sucks bad. I wish that more automotive aftermarket groups would lean more towards legality than high horse power for us that have to deal with smog.

There's always Vortech...

Yeah but the only thing that sucks is that turbos are way more efficient in making power. You don't have to lose power to make power with a turbo.

^^^ Technically, that's not true... When your foot is completely off the gas, you're motor is working harder because there is added back pressure. But I do agree with you. Your foot is on the gas 99% of the time you're driving.

Don't forget the added drag of the supercharger.

^^^ As far as I know, we're talking about Turbos, not superchargers... Superchargers have one place only... DRAG RACING! :D

I'd LOVE to see a twin root-style blower setup on a 370z! That'd rock socks.

Well actually a properly set up motor and turbo combination would rule the strip. Not only can you make excellent torque down at like 1200 rpm but you also have the "free horsepower" rule of turbo charging. If it comes down to it and I really want boost then maybe I'll get the vortec, but my celica is faster than that by far anywho.

All of the track records are held by supercharged cars. :D Drag cars are usually alcohol+supercharged.

This is true but someone needs to pioneer out there in the drag community because if they used the same engine, fuel and compression ratio, I can almost see it now, a turbo car out performed a supercharged car. Someone just needs to get the motor set up with the properly sized turbos and boost levels and tune it really well and I bet we can see at least some higher trap speeds.

^^^^^^^^^^ AGREED!

Depends on the class. BIG twin turbos, alcohol, and 2500-3000whp. :)

Yeah I love it.

Yeah, in the end, a turbo can easily push more power trim for trim. Superchargers spin around 50-80K RPM, but turbos spin between 100-200K Rpm.

I love this video TT grand national smoking the tires on the dyno so who really know's the amount of power this can really make.

^^^ Yeah, I saw that video. I'm pretty sure that car broke the dyno.

I saw this video about 2 years ago and still can't stop thinking about the thrill ride that thing must be.

Yeah, turbos are so fun... Especially if you don't spool and you let the motor catch the boost! :D I love when I put my foot down and half a second into acceleration the boost hits and you just get kicked back into the seat.

I'll be turboing the Z when I get it. I want 430-500 to the ground. :)

How do you get away with turboing a z car without them being smog legal? I am just curious cuz I really want to turbo mine. Well I am going to school to be a smog technician so I guess I could exploit myself a little.

it will not be smog legal.

It won't pass inspection even if it passes the sniffer.

There's not even a chance of getting a CARB cert here.

Well I am planning on moving to L.A. For me I love Southern California, central valley sucks arse. So hopefully next year I will be a thriving and flourishing smog technician in L.A. with a strong 370z even if I have to supercharge it.

California is really cracking down, even moreso than we I used to live there several years ago. The good thing about CA, is that unless things have changed, a smog check is only required every X number of years on brand new cars. This may give you 3 years or so of smog check-less operation. :)

But to answer your question, none of the kits will likely ever gain CARB exemption. JWT and APS tried for years.

Not to be annoying but, why can't they pass?

They will pass the typical federal emmisions checks. But in Califronia, they have a much more stringent test, that not only involves the sniffer, but also OBDII scan and worse...the dreaded visual inspection. Anything aftermarket, such as a turbo kit, headers or even an intake, has to have a CARB (California Air Resource Board) exemption number or certificate, in order for you to pass, even though you would pass with flying colors in the 49 other states.

Out of curiosity, how does F.I. affect the gas mileage on the 350Z, G35 or 370Z/G37?

I know performance and gas mileage is an oxymoron, but coming from two Supras, including a modified '89 Supra Turbo, I can appreciate what boost can do for performance.

I had considered the new M3, but given its poor gas mileage (compared with the 335i), this is really discouraging me. Then again, having something like 14 mpg city, 20 mpg hwy is something I can live with for the new Z if this is what this kit would allow me with mild to moderate boost.

I really don't think it would get that bad. You do need a considerable amount more fuel when making more power especially with F.I., but I really don't think it would drop to those numbers you posted.

At cruise, the MPG is the same as stock. With city or spirited driving, it's going to drop. The harder you drive, the quicker it drops. :)

Yeah basically the amount of boost you decide on with your right foot determines the fuel consumption you will whitness.

My last two fill ups have been around 17-18 mpg ... normal commuting to/from work with occasional hwy pulls. Maybe 70% hwy / 30% street. It all depends on your right foot.

How are these engines holding up with all that boost against stock pistons? I'm not askin to be a smarta**, but I'm coming from the Honda world (owned an s2k) where the max psi on a stock engine is around 7 or 8 (at the most), and never heard of a stock engine that could handle that much boost without shootin a piston throught the hood.

Do they already have forged pistons or something?

Well actually there have been many cases of the s2000's going much higher with the turbo's but with a great big FMIC and a really good tune.

Actually, in some cases you may get BETTER economy with turbos at cruising speeds because the engine isn't working as hard to breath. My turbo sol gets 40+mpg on the freeway.

So what your saying is the 3.7 can handle 10-12psi safely every day as long as it has a proper tune then?

I think what he's saying is that you can have it set for that much PSI and drive it like that every day as long as you're not hitting that much boost every shift. If you're boost controller is limiting at 12 PSI, doesn't mean you're hitting that much every time you step on the gas.

I like 10psi fo daily driving purpose which would be 500whp on most dynos. :) Time will tell, as to what level of sutained boost, the VQ37 will take for thousands of miles.

One dyno pull is one thing......20-30K miles of driving is another. :)

What will a system like this typically cost on the 370z w/ a 10psi set up?

i see the kit cost just under 8 grand...will this same kit fit the 370z, will it cost the same or less and what does installation run?

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Hi Sam..is the kit ready ?