Originally Posted by Staples I've posted an explanation on another thread, can't find it... here's a brief copied and pasted explanation. The VVEL system in our cars and extremely aggressive
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So then, LTH/TP + SC + VVEL <<< LTH/TP + SC + 'cracked' VVEL??
I get it now. These were tested with stock cats. More resistance to exhaust flow = more time in combustion chamber = best you can do with SC + VVEL. Sorry I had to write that out. Went to an engineering school but was not an engineer. Pretty much exactly what Mike said post #2.
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The supercharger runs off of backpressure, that's why more boost / power was made with the stock cats rather then longtube headers, reduce backpressure lose boost.
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they don't run off back pressure, to much is still a bad thing as then you start to trap exhaust in the cylinder instead of more fresh air mixture. the breathing mechanics are complicated. basically what you want is enough duration and lift on the exhaust that the engine pumps out most of the exhaust gasses, but on our cars which are tuned for n/a the valve overlap between the exhaust and intake valves allows the now compressed air charge to escape with the exhaust before the valve closes. all that is really needed is to bump the intake cam timing backward to reduce the overlap but with vvel you have to do both or nothing or else you risk the valves hitting the piston due to the high lift.
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Not with the 370z...the cams are essentialy tunable themselves just waiting on the good-ol-boys at GTM to finish crackin te system for it. CANT WAIT!!!
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One "off custom intake ".
how can you claim those #'s with that intake, as the average customer will not have one on his car. How much more did it make VS the stock intake ?
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In the end of it all, the real gains from F.I. be it SC or TT on the VQ37 will not be recognized until VVEL is cracked its that simple. When you are forced to deal with stock cats due to VVEL not allowing you to fine tune timing and fully utilized the compressed air you're just banging around fixing everything else except the real issue. Damn thing is that VVEL seems like a tuning rubix cube that no one has figured out yet but everyone says they are working on.
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^^that's a bandaid solution. Fact of the matter is that none of us really know what the VQ37 is capable of until VVEL is cracked. This is a guess but since its going to take a lot of r&d and probably not be something as simple as an UpRev add on I'd guess its going to be expensive. Kind of sucks for guys like me who already bought the uprev and then have to go back and get either an upgraded uprev if that turns out to be the solution or pony up for an additional tuning solution and/or hardware all together.
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GTM just shipped my stage 2.
Will be here in about 10 days ( has to clear customs ). the wait is over.
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Congrats dude. Looking forward to finally seeing what your car will put down at the strip.
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