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toner123 01-23-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 908071)
Yo, JB! where did you see that pricing at?

nevermind! i found it!

LOL i just realized something you said JB. Why would I need new turbos isnt the stage 2 capable of 700?
Frank

NYBladeZ 01-23-2011 12:39 PM

Someone please point the way to where the VQ motor redlines at 12,000. Was it an N/A build or with boost? I think the jury is still out on how much the stock block can take, we haven't seen one go boom yet. With that said, if I went with a built motor it would be more for piece of mind and longevity with boost rather than more power.

SPOHN 01-23-2011 12:46 PM

Besides the supporting mods. I think you would be more than happy with a short block build and see where it lands you. You would get more than great power, plus the better reliability of being boosted that you wanted.

On a side note have you ever rode in a car with a stand alone system? It amazes me to this day how smooth it is. Better than stock.

toner123 01-23-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 908099)
Besides the supporting mods. I think you would be more than happy with a short block build and see where it lands you. You would get more than great power, plus the better reliability of being boosted that you wanted.

On a side note have you ever rode in a car with a stand alone system? It amazes me to this day how smooth it is. Better than stock.

yea maybe a short block is the way to go. mainly I want the reliability and that will give me the power I want also. I will look around to see who has a nice fuel system at a good price and a stand alone system. This is really not going to that expensive as i orignally thought.
Frank

weiboy718 01-23-2011 01:36 PM

FI is like crack. Once you're hooked you'll want more.

SAM@GTM 01-23-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 907971)
Hey guys lately I have been debating to start building my motor to make it more FI friendly. Not wanting to start this tomorrow but maybe next winter is when I am going to want to do it. Well I find myself in unfamiliar water and was wondering what I would need to do. I would like a motor that could handle about 700hp to the wheels just in case I ever want to go up a little more from where i am at now in power. I understand that I would need pistons, rods and a crank to lower the compression, but what about the heads? Would I need to get head work done, new valves, and would a VVEL controller be necessary? Never really did anything like this so any help would be appreciated.
Frank

The simpler the better, First thing you need to do is to define your power goal and how are you going to use car. Meaning track or no track use and if you are tracking what type of tracking, there is a huge difference between drag racing and road racing setups.

Few thoughts on the matter .

-Bottom end piston and rods.

-Stock heads flow over 300 CFM so there will be no need to do any head work, just some valve spring will do.

-You don't really need a standalone, stock ecu can do job

-Your fuel system will have to be adjusted according to your power hunger, your current set up can support 550 WHP safely without any problem. We have made 611 RWHP on you exact fuel set up.

The main factor here that we are starting with good advanced efficient engine out of the box . So it does not take much to make descent power, we just need to work on making it more suited for FI .

Hope this helps

Sam

toner123 01-23-2011 02:36 PM

well I am more leaning towards making the engine safer for FI I know there is no failure reports yet but something that will give piece of mind. Also 600-650 to the wheels is fine for me. Not really doing this for the more power because my car is fast as hell now but if i was to do engine work i think it is just more beneficial to give your self some room to grow down the line. I am not a big racer. i like the occasinal 1/4 mile but really can't see me ever autocrossing. Any recomandations sam?

SAM@GTM 01-23-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 908211)
well I am more leaning towards making the engine safer for FI I know there is no failure reports yet but something that will give piece of mind. Also 600-650 to the wheels is fine for me. Not really doing this for the more power because my car is fast as hell now but if i was to do engine work i think it is just more beneficial to give your self some room to grow down the line. I am not a big racer. i like the occasinal 1/4 mile but really can't see me ever autocrossing. Any recomandations sam?

I will shoot you some packages to look at, also you still have the option of not building yet, What is the rush. We have customer with almost 20 k FI miles on a stock engine without any issue.

I'm a believer if its not broken don't fix it especially on the VHR37

Sam

toner123 01-23-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 908225)
I will shoot some packages to look at, also you still have the option of not building yet, what is the rush. We have customer with almost 20 k FI miles on a stock engine without any issue.

I'm a believer if its not broken don't fix it especially on the VHR37

Sam

yea if i do it, it would be in the winter and allow me to build the piggy bank. Not rushing but it would make me feel better. If i save the extra cash why not making something better?

oreoleo 01-27-2011 08:23 PM

What are roughly the maintenance differences between running a 550rwhp car and a 700rwhp car? More common check for leaks? Things like axles and trans braking? Going through clutches?
p.s. driving it on the street, frequently beating on it.

Vinny 01-28-2011 07:08 AM

Can someone post a link the the short block you're talking about? Cant seem to find it on the site.

Z eliminator 01-28-2011 09:01 AM

Oh good more money to spend with Sam on a built motor. Why wait just get the stroker 4.5 L. (Sam do not put this on My Account ).
Once you get the traction Control you need to have a twin turbo 4.5 l to see how well the traction control work's

Z

toner123 01-28-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 915930)
Oh good more money to spend with Sam on a built motor. Why wait just get the stroker 4.5 L. (Sam do not put this on My Account ).
Once you get the traction Control you need to have a twin turbo 4.5 l to see how well the traction control work's

Z

LOL. I don't need what mike has. Also can't afford that. Well don't know if I can afford this lol. Sam is going to get back to me with the packages and then I know what to expect. I just want to make the engine more suited for FI. Also Z if you want to pay for the 4.5L for me i promise i will not talk you out of it.
Frank

wifedrivenZ 02-26-2011 10:45 AM

I live in NC and my buddy had some engine work done in VA. He has an STI but the shop was great. When we picked it up they gave us a full tour of the shop. The guys took the time to show us what they did and talked about future upgrades. It cost 8k for the work and it did not give him 1hp. What it did give him is peace of mind. He can now crank up the boost and not worry about it. I think that is what the thread is all about peace of mind. While I was there I asked what they could do for my car and they replyed what are my goals for the build. If you don't have goals they cant really help you. So if you want safe 600-700 hp then you tell them that and they will tell you what you need. I will call my buddy and pm you the info.

JB-370z 02-26-2011 11:53 AM

I would like to see more people pushing 600whp, and really blowing some of the these supercharged dudes out the water LOL, I kid I kid :)


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