built motor?

SPOHN

You could need a bigger radiator with fans with those power levels. But maybe not. But it does help to have. Better clutch, oil cooler, LSD (IMO), and some others. Not sure of what you have as of now such as exhaust and such. There's alot to it. Start looking up other people's duild and see what they have. There's such that can be said.

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toner123

I have everything you mentioned already from when I added the turbo kit.
Frank

I know this may seem like a stupid thread but something never really discussed on the forum and one day I am really going to want to do this and it would be nice to have a idea of how it works so some shop doesn't take me for a ride.

SPOHN

Ok I see what boat your in. Yea defiantly a fuel system(injectors, return system)and engine management for starters. The motor is straight forward for your going to have a certain type of setup for those levels. I agree with Scott also. Plus at the time you get involved you will need to see if the turbo's might need to be rebuilt also while there off the car.

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toner123

Ok glade you see what i mean, but to clear all the confusion lets talk about making a 600 rwhp engine lol I hope the turbos wont need to be rebuilt lol there brand new still lol. No the only things i was wondering about the motor was with the vvel. I noticed sam sells engine and only one was VHR and i know are lower end casing wise is the same as the DE and HR but if i was to buy one of those engines would the VVEL work. Like his stage 1 is capable of 600 rwhp or up to it say, I am fine with that, get a comresion ratio of 8:5 don't have to worry if the engine can take it now and you are done. add now from what you all are telling me, the fuel return and engine management and you have a bad *** ride. I would imagine OEM ignition would be fine, not sure though.
Thanks guys really do appreciate the help
Frank

JB-370z

You need to call Sam and talk compression. I think this is much to low, ask Sam, he can explain. Oh and I told you Toner you would want more power soon ; )

The build is looking great by the way

Edit: @ 600whp stage 2 turbos are pretty much maxed out, so is the fuel system. The rods on the VQ37 is a weak point Sam says. You can build the bottom end for a cheap price and upgrade everything else as you go. The bottom end is really what you need built to hit 600whp all day long. Sam has a stage 1 short block for 3666.00 that includes all labor. Thats all you need as far as building the block for 600whp. You will need new turbos to go over 600whp.

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toner123

LOL ITS CRACK. **** should be illegal lol. I sent sam a email about this a while ago maybe a month or so he never got back to me. I have the money right now to do it if I really wanted to, but not really needed. Something I want done when the winter hits and my car is just chillin in the garage. Don't want to risk spring and summer again like I did last year. Ohh also can you explain why that would be a little to low? I thought from reading google lol 8:5 was a very good compression ratio for FI cars.
Frank

weiboy718

Yo, JB! where did you see that pricing at?

nevermind! i found it!

toner123

LOL i just realized something you said JB. Why would I need new turbos isnt the stage 2 capable of 700?
Frank

DIGItonium

With that much power, the butt end of your car will definitely be wiggling like a super excited dog who hasn't seen its owner in ages.

Are you keeping the displacement? I also wonder about the VVEL system as well.

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Reality

It may be in your best interest to first find a shop you really trust--to build your motor. Once you have that covered, you should sit with your builder and discuss what he thinks would be best for your goals.
*At least that's what I would do...*

Best of luck!

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toner123

There is really no one around here that gets into these cars here. Mostly around me is all vette shops. Got any recomandations I may consider?
Frank

Reality

Just noticed you are in VA.. You should definitely consider speaking with Hal@Dynosty (Hal@Injected) They have a great/solid reputation..
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toner123

I most def will. Never heard of them but i will browse that thread and give them a call tomorrow to introduce my self. Thank you reality
Frank

NYBladeZ

Someone please point the way to where the VQ motor redlines at 12,000. Was it an N/A build or with boost? I think the jury is still out on how much the stock block can take, we haven't seen one go boom yet. With that said, if I went with a built motor it would be more for piece of mind and longevity with boost rather than more power.

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SPOHN

Besides the supporting mods. I think you would be more than happy with a short block build and see where it lands you. You would get more than great power, plus the better reliability of being boosted that you wanted.

On a side note have you ever rode in a car with a stand alone system? It amazes me to this day how smooth it is. Better than stock.

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