Another Stillen SC thread!

[weiboy718]

Yep, that's what they told my buyer.

My buyer is planning on getting a 10psi pulley from them and that sales guy told him flat out Stillen will not supply him with any parts that might be missing from my kit or just needs extra parts just because he's not buying a new kit and getting it used from me lol.

[Jamaica]

That's bull man. Let me know when your down here my shop is close to sams.

[weiboy718]

Originally Posted by jamaica951

That's bull man. Let me know when your down here my shop is close to sams.

Alright, I'll try my best. My plane leaves at 2:55pm the same day. I'll try to get there earlier to meet and chill with everybody for a hour or 2

[GZ3]

Originally Posted by weiboy718

first off, the car was dropped off perfectly fine with no DETONATION whatsoever!
the detonation is noticed right after the kit got installed. yes, my dealer did perform a warranty work right after the kit is installed because they've noticed that the vvel wasn't functioning properly. after they tear down the front timing cover and i was told by the tech only the timing cover gasket was torn and everything else is perfectly fine but they did replaced a lot of stuff in there. so what if they warrantied the parts inside there are you guys saying that my dealer is incompetent in working on the vvel. it could've very well been your crappy tunes that broked it in the first place.

okay, so after everything got fixed and i was sent home. the car pulls like crazy especially on the higher rpm's and i thought i was happy but i was wrong. for some unknown reasons after a 30-40min drive the car will lose some power and you can hear this hammering sound coming from the engine when i accelerate and of course i knew that was detonation. even tho i told them that i'm having these symptoms they didn't do anything at the time. then a week or 2 flies by they had found out that this pulley was making too much boost and needed to revise the pulley to an actual 8psi pulley and they'll have to detune the car till they get the new pulley in. i go in and get detuned, after that my car isn't driveable at all. there were hesitation when you gas, everything was getting super hot under the engine bay, it was all bad. i then called up Josh@Stillen and told them what was the problem and why it isn't driveable? he's unsure of the problem and all the tech's are gone home already so he wasn't able to help. that's when i told him that i'll bring the car down to their facility and fix whatever they need to and get me running. that was the first time i went down there. okay, we went down there and got tuned finally but even then i still had that clicking noise upon driving off and the only way to get that noise gone is to rev up the rpm to about 1.8k-2k. the head tech even tried and bump up the rpm just to get that noise away. little did i know that noise is detonation, an VQ expert told me that. plus i never had that before the kit. (i hardly have any now since the special weiboy tune)drove home and the first time me and my friend noticed is the rpm is all over the place and sometimes stall out upon coming to a stop sign, i didn't complain much about that since it's really not a big of a deal that's y you haven't heard much about it but Josh should know since i've been talking to him only. he may forget, doesn't matter! i did tell him and not making this ish up like you're saying that i am.

whatever! i'll skip it to part where you said you guys were so nice to have fly down just to pick up my car.

that time i received a new tune from you guys. (R6) flashed it, car had lot's of power down low but sucked up top. i took it out to Z Car Garage and got it dyno'ed. car only made this much power with lot's of detonation.
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at that time you guys were suppose to be bringing in another car from another member but somehow that didn't happened so that's when you guys wanted my car and i agreed to it and that you would fly down here to pick it up and drive back to my door which did not happened. i did not request you guys to do this. you had asked and i agreed so of course you gotta pay for everything. at that time i was not using R8! i was on R6 which gave out detonation even on the high end. i still have that datalog if anybody is interested in looking at lol. so the trip went fine and my power bumped from 377whp back to 410! wow! really! just a simple trip back down there got me 30whp more lol. the dyno sheet i got from them isn't even on the date that my car was there lol. got home, the tune still got some tip in detonation especially on hot days! the car will get heat soaked after being stucked in traffic and can get completely undriveable at all. this one time i almost got stuck on a hill when the car kept on jerking and even on 1st gear it had a hard time climbing it like the engine was choking on something. the morning drives is perfect tho. got good power and everything with no detonation. so how do you explain that? detonation is much more noticeable when it's hot but not when it's cold.

in the beginning your customer service is so good that i was praising you guys like god even tho there is problems with the kit or tunes. i chose to ignore that and had even defended you guys from other people. that was dumb! i'm pretty sure there are other people who is having the same symptom as me. let me dig it up on the370!

[Well here goes; The first thing I noticed was that the tip-in knock that I was] [experiencing was gone. The power is down a bit below 3K rpm and I presume it's] [because they removed timing down low to eliminate the tip-in knock.]

see! i'm not the only one here with tip in detonation. my tip in detonation is gone also but there's just no power then what's the point of having this kit? it's crap and i can't wait to get it off my car which is schedule to be removed this month by ***. till then Stillen can say that my car is the main source for all the problems. i can't wait to get it all done just so you guys can shut up and accept the fact that your kit and tunes is the problem and stop blaming it on other people's car's.

wow man that sux, i really hope you get everything squared away! Ever since my 350z days i have stayed away from stillen for all horror stories i heard. Thier SC kits produced laughable power, they were the butt of jokes in the FI section, and i read quite a few bad service stories ranging from the Z32 days. I personally will never buy a stillen product for these reasons

[LiquidZ]

I'm waiting until Stillen emerges in the 2011 Mustang forum sections. Should prove interesting...

[Junior370z]

Man thats not cool! Wonder if they'll post up some explanations on the thread. Hmmm.

I'm sure you and your car will get the proper treatment at GTM. Hope everything turns out well bro!

[GraphiteG37S]

Originally Posted by weiboy718

Yep, that's what they told my buyer.

My buyer is planning on getting a 10psi pulley from them and that sales guy told him flat out Stillen will not supply him with any parts that might be missing from my kit or just needs extra parts just because he's not buying a new kit and getting it used from me lol.

WOW! that's some shady @ss business...

[Liquid_G]

maybe thats just their policy not to sell pieces of the kit? If so thats understandable.. but still its a crappy policy..

[weiboy718]

Originally Posted by Junior370z

Man thats not cool! Wonder if they'll post up some explanations on the thread. Hmmm.

I'm sure you and your car will get the proper treatment at GTM. Hope everything turns out well bro!

Thank you, Stillen only watch this and probably try and come up with another story and attack me. That's okay! I'm just hoping these threads will help people decide which kit to choose and not become a victim like some of us. I know there's more people that are having issues, hopefully they'll come forward as well

[wishihadnav]

start a petition thread.."Victimized by Stillen?"..lol..

[Junior370z]

Originally Posted by Liquid_G

maybe thats just their policy not to sell pieces of the kit? If so thats understandable.. but still its a crappy policy..

So let's say something on the kit becomes damaged later down the line for whatever reason... Not being able to buy parts to replace what's broken not an option? So what... You have to buy the whole kit all over to replace that part? Seems pretty odd!

[GraphiteG37S]

Originally Posted by Liquid_G

maybe thats just their policy not to sell pieces of the kit? If so thats understandable.. but still its a crappy policy..

But what happens if part of the kit breaks (ie accident or something)? Then what? Or if Weiboy had decided to buy a 370z and wanted to transfer the kit over? He wouldnt be able to... Who's to say he can't sell something that's his, and how can a big company like Stillen deny service or business to customers just because they bought the kit second hand. Evidently the resale value of the kit is worthless, it's not even worth selling.

[kevin8086]

Originally Posted by Liquid_G

maybe thats just their policy not to sell pieces of the kit? If so thats understandable.. but still its a crappy policy..

not really, i was the first to call them and ask about parts for my Z since this kit was on a G. The guy i talked to "didnt know what the differences were and whatever they are i would need to buy a 500 cable for the tune plus shiping for the parts and by then i would probably be at the cost of a new one from them but i would not have a warranty nor will they offer one."

he did call me back later and let me know what the differences were but was obviously pushing to sell me a new kit (i do understand, it is a business) but i was wanting to help out a forum member by buying his and saving a few $. This whole situation stinks and im sorry you are going through this. i think i have decided to wait until i can afford a TT kit. i went and drove a 500hp Cobra and i just dont think i like the way superchargers feel over TT's. maybe the Z will feel different, idk. good luck though.

[kevin8086]

oh, they did tell me they would sell me the parts needed so i dont know why they would have changed their mind. Im not protecting them just letting you know they did say they would sell it to me but who knows for how much. the parts are the air filters and a bracket or 2 that could be made form home depot im sure.

[GraphiteG37S]

^ fail... You beat me to it Junior370z.. Lol