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Ron 12-30-2011 09:54 AM

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The factory setup is that, separately on each side of the engine, one hose flows outwards from the crankcase to a manifold vacuum inlet,
So these are the ones toward the front of the engine that connect to the two V shaped nipples on the front of the manifold. They flow OUT from the crankcase to the manifold?

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and the the other hose flows inwards from filtered intake air into the crankcase. At least the vacuum-connected ones have PCV valves on them, I'm not sure whether the fresh-air-connected ones have a valve buried in there somewhere (or perhaps just some foam or something).
So these are the ones that connect from the intake tubing through a plastic baffle and then into the valve cover? Where/when is the air recirculated back to intake then?

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So to run a dual-can setup, the normal way would be to splice one can into each of the vacuum<-crankcase lines.

So splice a can in between each of the red hoses pictured here:

http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...600&page=popup


I'm confused now :confused: lol

erkthejerk73 12-30-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 1468286)
It was dark in my garage so the iPhone pics are horrible. I had to use regular black hose that does not bend easy because the clear hose Top Secret sent was too short due to TT setup. Does anyone know where I can get more clear hose so I can get rid of this black stuff?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...E/e60ec4f7.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...E/387e914d.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...E/3a7b2877.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...E/26fcb05c.jpg

go to any auto parts store and ask for Clear PVC fuel line, you should then be able to buy it by the foot and reinstall it. make sure it is stiff enough not to kink.

roplusbee 12-30-2011 03:08 PM

Ron:

You are going to have to share notes with me when I get back. Let me know how those catch cans work out for you and how much they fill over say a month. I never had one in any of my other turbo'd cars, but I didn't have crap in my intake either. I did have a variety of other issues, that were heat related though.

Ron 12-30-2011 03:12 PM

I sure will.. If I can figure out how to hook them up lol, everybody seems to install them differently, JBs right there has a PCV port blocked. I saw a TT car at baker that had the vacuum inlets (Vshaped) on the manifold blocked too.

Jordo! 12-30-2011 03:12 PM

Note: You want one that is baffled and/or filtered to actually trap the oil and not just recirculate it...

You also want steel braided hose lines so they don't collapse under vacuum.

Probably not a big deal on a N/A car, BTW.

Ron 12-30-2011 03:15 PM

yep I took that into consideration, I am looking into these:

42 Draft Designs

or

Radium Engineering
Universal Dual Catch Can Kit

Jordo right here is pretty knowledgeable :icon17: ... how are we supposed to connect them?

Jordo! 12-30-2011 03:22 PM

^^^ Now of that I'm not sure off the top of my head.

I think previous page someone posted a diagram...

Those cans are really nice! Especially the ones at second link.

O&G 12-30-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1469344)
yep I took that into consideration, I am looking into these:

42 Draft Designs

or

Radium Engineering
Universal Dual Catch Can Kit

Jordo right here is pretty knowledgeable :icon17: ... how are we supposed to connect them?

PCV line, your red hoses! I'm interested to see how much you collect too. Had one on my TT 350, didn't collect much at all. Get that 42design can, looks like a great design with the screens and all.

Ron 12-30-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1469352)
^^^ Now of that I'm not sure off the top of my head.

I think previous page someone posted a diagram...

Those cans are really nice! Especially the ones at second link.

I posted that diagram but it turns out it seems to be wrong lollol.. Yep that is the one I am leaning towards.

O&G 12-30-2011 03:26 PM

Both cans look good, read the other one as well!

wstar 12-30-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1468867)
So these are the ones toward the front of the engine that connect to the two V shaped nipples on the front of the manifold. They flow OUT from the crankcase to the manifold?

Yes, or more precisely, the manifold vacuum's negative pressure sucks air from the crankcase via these lines

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So these are the ones that connect from the intake tubing through a plastic baffle and then into the valve cover?
The other pair of tubes that go to the sides of the intake tubing feed fresh air from the intake to the crankcase.

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Where/when is the air recirculated back to intake then?
The V-shaped nippes on the front of the manifold. The manifold vacuum that sucks crankcase gases into here is generated by your engine's desire to draw intake air. So all manifold vacuum inlets are effectively engine-breathing-air inlets. Anything you stuff in them gets burned by the engine eventually.

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So splice a can in between each of the red hoses pictured here:
Yes. Ideally a can with some sort of baffle/mesh system. The V-shaped ports in the center would be the clean side(s) of the can(s), then other end is what you want the baffles/mesh to trap stuff from.

Ron 12-30-2011 05:58 PM

I get it now, thanks wstar! Repped.

sixpax 01-13-2012 06:20 PM

Does anyone happen to know if the PVC tubing in the Z is 9mm or 15mm ? Greddy cans have to be ordered with one or the other fitting size.

tranceformer 01-14-2012 12:03 AM

Go with the 9 mm.

sixpax 01-14-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tranceformer (Post 1489596)
Go with the 9 mm.

Thanks !

I thought this was a rather funny product description for a Megan Racing catch can setup available at a site for enjukuracing:

"The Megan Racing oil catch tank will hold this oily by product by removing it from suspension within the air intake stream. By doing so, horsepower is then increased by eliminating the engine."

Link: Megan Racing Universal Chrome Oil Catch Tank - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC

On a side note those little Circuit Sport 250cc cans also available at that site look pretty cool but I don't know about those top mounted filter deals. Seems it would then be an open air system hence losing vacuum/pressure.

Pretty convinced I am going to run two cans though for the stock setup (no M370, no FI) ... I think personally it makes sense to do so as the motor was designed to breathe the way it is setup so I don't know about blocking anything off and forcing it to breathe differently.


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