GTM SC installs reviewed

G37Sam · 10-13-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

I'm tired of the whole Stillen/GTM bs and over it so its all the same to me, figure might as well be helpful.

Thank you!!

It seems like theres a war going on between GTM SC owners and Stillen SC owners, both are hiding their flaws to show they're superior which in turn benefits the vendors and hurts the community. I really wished we were more honest with our reviews and less biased.

theDreamer · 10-13-2010, 10:18 AM

The kit is not changed it is the headers/cats people want to change.
That is part of modifying ones car though, you get product X and you want to try something new and different with it.

RCZ · 10-13-2010, 10:24 AM

Oh agreed, but whats the point of waiting to post results of product X when you've made it into product Y by changing it. In other words, you dont want to post results of the original kit as it came, you're waiting until you change things?

Anyway, I understand what You mean... I've been scheming to get 8psi at 2500rpm all the way through to redline steady. Just don't know if its possible yet.

theDreamer · 10-13-2010, 10:26 AM

That is the reason I am tempted to just rip the LTHs off for the time and go with what the kit is meant to be. No hassles, no testing, it will just work.

RCZ · 10-13-2010, 10:37 AM

Yeah definitely don't blame you. You always get to a point where you just want to be able to turn the car on and off and not worry about anything else.

shumby · 10-13-2010, 10:56 AM

Sam no one is hiding GTM flaws there are non. the kit preformes exactly as it was advertized. The only things that are changing is part to get the SC to work with after market parts that the kit was not designed for nor advertized it would work with.

would like to know what exactly you think us GTM guys are hiding? All my numbers are out there and can be seen. Nothing to hide I posted everything and answered all questions asked.

Dreamer DON'T TAKE THE LTH'S OFF. I really want this to work out screw what other think. I'll paypal you $5 to help out the development process.

RCZ · 10-13-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shumby

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So now we're not allowed to post in threads of things we don't have? Give it a break will you?

I understand about the castings Danny. **** happens sometimes that you cant control when you send parts out to get made, no matter how much you plan for it or how clear you are with instructions. People always seem to find a way to screw it up.

DannyGT · 10-13-2010, 10:56 AM

I dont think I have once hid anything from anyone here...the truth is, the kit has not changed from X to Y. I actually asked to have the proto intake pipe sent to me but it was agreed that it takes a rediculous amount of time to re-produce them by hand. Hence why casting is such a cost effective solution. All thats being done is reducing the amount of material inside the pipe to be as effective as the ptype was. I could have been running my kit but fortunatly I have a spare car and I am waiting patiently.

If something significant was being changed I would have been one of the first to inform the community. But the truth is, not even Sam could have predicted the casting company to create such a problem for him. Design is the same, functionality should be the same, the only unfortunate thing is the wait...basically if the casting company didnt screw up their would have been alot more kits running around already.

Either way, i'm excited to finally be able to continue with the install and provide the info others have been waiting for...by the end of this week if all goes well.

Buddy Revell · 10-14-2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyGT

I dont think I have once hid anything from anyone here...the truth is, the kit has not changed from X to Y. I actually asked to have the proto intake pipe sent to me but it was agreed that it takes a rediculous amount of time to re-produce them by hand. Hence why casting is such a cost effective solution. All thats being done is reducing the amount of material inside the pipe to be as effective as the ptype was. I could have been running my kit but fortunatly I have a spare car and I am waiting patiently.

If something significant was being changed I would have been one of the first to inform the community. But the truth is, not even Sam could have predicted the casting company to create such a problem for him. Design is the same, functionality should be the same, the only unfortunate thing is the wait...basically if the casting company didnt screw up their would have been alot more kits running around already.

Either way, i'm excited to finally be able to continue with the install and provide the info others have been waiting for...by the end of this week if all goes well.

Yeah, I'm pretty much in the same boat as Danny.

Zsteve · 10-23-2010, 09:21 AM

any new GTM SC installs yet?

G Fo12ce · 10-23-2010, 09:45 AM

[QUOTE=shumby;733196]Also looking at the VQ38 manifold getting on there. QUOTE]

I think you mean VR38.

wishihadnav · 10-13-2010, 12:01 PM

i dont own either kit but im leaning toward the GTM...seems like the only "issue" was some high boost taper which has been identified n resolved..Sams' advertised HP claims are also consistent with the product..seems like a no brainer to me.

theDreamer · 10-13-2010, 02:08 PM

I think the question is if we put a smaller pulley on the setup will the unit be out of its efficiency range? If yes, then the LTHs need to go with a larger unit, if no then we might be able to see some great power gains.

DarkZide · 10-13-2010, 02:17 PM

< ----- still waiting on a dyno of a bone stock 6speed 370z with GTM kit on 8psi with all numbers being disclosed including DA, type of Dyno, etc.

wishihadnav · 10-13-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

< ----- still waiting on a dyno of a bone stock 6speed 370z with GTM kit on 8psi with all numbers being disclosed including DA, type of Dyno, etc.

should happen within a couple weeks..

10-13-2010, 10:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	The kit is not changed it is the headers/cats people want to change. That is part of modifying ones car though, you get product X and you want to try something new and different with it. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-13-2010, 10:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Oh agreed, but whats the point of waiting to post results of product X when you've made it into product Y by changing it. In other words, you dont want to post results of the original kit as it came, you're waiting until you change things? Anyway, I understand what You mean... I've been scheming to get 8psi at 2500rpm all the way through to redline steady. Just don't know if its possible yet. Last edited by AK370Z; 10-14-2010 at 01:24 AM. Reason: ak

10-13-2010, 10:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	That is the reason I am tempted to just rip the LTHs off for the time and go with what the kit is meant to be. No hassles, no testing, it will just work. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-13-2010, 10:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 45 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	Sam no one is hiding GTM flaws there are non. the kit preformes exactly as it was advertized. The only things that are changing is part to get the SC to work with after market parts that the kit was not designed for nor advertized it would work with. would like to know what exactly you think us GTM guys are hiding? All my numbers are out there and can be seen. Nothing to hide I posted everything and answered all questions asked. Dreamer DON'T TAKE THE LTH'S OFF. I really want this to work out screw what other think. I'll paypal you $5 to help out the development process. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam Last edited by AK370Z; 10-14-2010 at 01:24 AM. Reason: AK

10-13-2010, 10:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 280	I dont think I have once hid anything from anyone here...the truth is, the kit has not changed from X to Y. I actually asked to have the proto intake pipe sent to me but it was agreed that it takes a rediculous amount of time to re-produce them by hand. Hence why casting is such a cost effective solution. All thats being done is reducing the amount of material inside the pipe to be as effective as the ptype was. I could have been running my kit but fortunatly I have a spare car and I am waiting patiently. If something significant was being changed I would have been one of the first to inform the community. But the truth is, not even Sam could have predicted the casting company to create such a problem for him. Design is the same, functionality should be the same, the only unfortunate thing is the wait...basically if the casting company didnt screw up their would have been alot more kits running around already. Either way, i'm excited to finally be able to continue with the install and provide the info others have been waiting for...by the end of this week if all goes well. __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

10-13-2010, 10:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Yeah definitely don't blame you. You always get to a point where you just want to be able to turn the car on and off and not worry about anything else.

10-23-2010, 09:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	any new GTM SC installs yet? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

10-23-2010, 09:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 52	[QUOTE=shumby;733196]Also looking at the VQ38 manifold getting on there. QUOTE] I think you mean VR38. __________________ Nismo Suspension: New Owners Check Here!

10-13-2010, 12:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	i dont own either kit but im leaning toward the GTM...seems like the only "issue" was some high boost taper which has been identified n resolved..Sams' advertised HP claims are also consistent with the product..seems like a no brainer to me.

10-13-2010, 02:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	I think the question is if we put a smaller pulley on the setup will the unit be out of its efficiency range? If yes, then the LTHs need to go with a larger unit, if no then we might be able to see some great power gains. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-13-2010, 02:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
DarkZide Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: TN Posts: 291 Drives: 2010 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 15	< ----- still waiting on a dyno of a bone stock 6speed 370z with GTM kit on 8psi with all numbers being disclosed including DA, type of Dyno, etc.

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