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bullitt5897 08-11-2010 08:15 AM

lol you BASTARD hahaha ok my 450zTT > TT > SC *hehehehe* :excited:

GUTCH 08-11-2010 10:01 AM

OK so we basically need a stage 2 GTM SC kit installed to see how that goes up against the TT kit.

Any volunteers?

:eekdance:

theDreamer 08-11-2010 10:03 AM

Maybe. ;) Sam is still working on Stage 2 SC kits right now, should have more news soon.
I think 8PSI v. 8PSI it will be an even race, but as you start to modify the TT kit will gain more power easier than a SC kit which can be a huge advantage.

phelan 08-11-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 669621)
lol you BASTARD hahaha ok my 450zTT > TT > SC *hehehehe* :excited:

way to toot your own horn there bullitt

:rofl2:

bullitt5897 08-11-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 669841)
way to toot your own horn there bullitt

:rofl2:

:happydance: I do what I can :bowrofl:

theDreamer 08-11-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 669888)
:happydance: I do what I can :bowrofl:

:vuvuzela:

WarmAndSCSI 08-11-2010 11:13 AM

Boost pressure (psi) does not equate to power made, or subsequent engine strain due to parasitic loss or turbine backpressure. 8 psi on turbo A != 8 psi on turbo B != 8 psi on supercharger

bullitt5897 08-11-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 669922)
Boost pressure (psi) does not equate to power made, or subsequent engine strain due to parasitic loss or turbine backpressure. 8 psi on turbo A != 8 psi on turbo B != 8 psi on supercharger

The strain a TT kit exherts on a motor is slightly different then the strain a SC puts on the exact same motor. For example a TT uses exhaust gases to spin up and power the turbo's ability to compress outside air. While a SC uses the front accessory drives and belt system to do the same job. That's the difference between SC and TT they strain different parts. Like what was said 8psi is 8psi and boost psi only gives us a tool to measure performance efficiency of a forced induction system...

WarmAndSCSI 08-11-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 670129)
The strain a TT kit exherts on a motor is slightly different then the strain a SC puts on the exact same motor. For example a TT uses exhaust gases to spin up and power the turbo's ability to compress outside air. While a SC uses the front accessory drives and belt system to do the same job. That's the difference between SC and TT they strain different parts. Like what was said 8psi is 8psi and boost psi only gives us a tool to measure performance efficiency of a forced induction system...

Wow, I did not know any of this :ugh2:

8 psi is not just 8 psi. Boost pressure is completely dependent on particular head dynamics, intake restrictions, compressor sizing, compressor efficiency, intercooler efficiency, etc.

Boost pressure means nothing.

bullitt5897 08-11-2010 02:57 PM

WarmAndSCSI that response was toward other readers... now if you re-read my post you will see that I stated:

"boost psi only gives us a tool to measure performance efficiency of a Forced induction system..."

which is completely true. 8psi is strictly 8psi its a measure of pounds per square inch that is it... psi does not relate to performance at all!!! my 8psi performance could yield the same performance as a regular TT's 20psi setup. Do not get defensive cause we are saying the same thing.

WarmAndSCSI 08-11-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 670433)
WarmAndSCSI that response was toward other readers... now if you re-read my post you will see that I stated:

"boost psi only gives us a tool to measure performance efficiency of a Forced induction system..."

which is completely true. 8psi is strictly 8psi its a measure of pounds per square inch that is it... psi does not relate to performance at all!!! my 8psi performance could yield the same performance as a regular TT's 20psi setup. Do not get defensive cause we are saying the same thing.

Yes, and boost pressure doesn't even give you that. It's at most an arbitrary number you can tune a boosted system to target. But when compressor speed must increase to maintain the same pressure at a higher rpm, I'm not even sure boost pressure is a good thing to target.

bullitt5897 08-11-2010 03:19 PM

lower boost is better boost ;) thats my opinion! I strive to make sure my setup makes the most power with the least amount of boost! its called system efficiency :tup: glad we are on the same page SCSI ;)

now... LEAVE mrcardio alones!!!!! hahahahaha

JB-370z 08-11-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 669774)
Maybe. ;) Sam is still working on Stage 2 SC kits right now, should have more news soon.
I think 8PSI v. 8PSI it will be an even race, but as you start to modify the TT kit will gain more power easier than a SC kit which can be a huge advantage.

You do realize that the TT is over 500whp @ 8psi right??

theDreamer 08-11-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 670616)
You do realize that the TT is over 500whp @ 8psi right??

An off the line race is not all about HP, the torque curves play the beginning factor mainly along with driver and car setup, HP will factor in the second off of a 1/4 mile race or longer.

bullitt5897 08-11-2010 04:39 PM

F*CK IT!!! I will take you all on in REVERSE!!!! and I will still win by an 1/8 mile!!!!


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