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DrewDong 07-26-2010 11:00 PM

Pros and Cons of Turbo and Superchargers?
 

Hey everyone, was debating on whether to go NA or FI, but would like to know any pros or cons with a forced induction setup. Like would there be certain parts that would wear out faster and need replacing? tx

Zsteve 07-26-2010 11:11 PM

there have been a few threads on this already, just need to search and go back a ways.

CrownR426 07-26-2010 11:13 PM

inb4lock

Chriz 07-26-2010 11:15 PM

shouldn't stuff like this be googled? Could yield faster and more info

toner123 07-27-2010 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DrewDong (Post 645924)
Hey everyone, was debating on whether to go NA or FI, but would like to know any pros or cons with a forced induction setup. Like would there be certain parts that would wear out faster and need replacing? tx

I'll answer

It all depends on what you want as to power goals. FI obviously will give you greater results.

Superchargers take power to make power. but they are easier to install and are usually a little cheaper

Turbo uses the exhaust to produce more power. They cost a little more and tend to take more time to install and require supporting mods, such as a boost controller and others. Turbo's are also more efficient and from my reading and understanding aren't as limited as a S/C in increasing performance down the line.

This is the answer in a nut shell. It all depends on what you want to do. When I was planning on buying a supercharger I had more people talk me out of it and to go turbo then I did have people telling me to buy it. As for wear on the components, well the jury is still out on that since this is such a new car. The G37 has been around for a little with this engine and they have been turbo and S/C it for a while now and there has been no real major issues that I know of. Common sense will tell you though there will be some elevation of wear. How much is still the question alot of people on here are waiting for. I know there is a G37 out there running with a GTM stage 2 twin turbo kit for about 40,000 miles and he is having no issues with reliability. He has performed no engine work and is still running of the stock clutch. Also one is not safer then the other, they both do the same thing but go about different ways of doing it.

Like i said alot depends on what you want to do. I love the sound of turbo's and after doing some reading here or google I found which one is the best for me. Stick with a good company like GTM if you choose to do it, also that way if you buy a turn key kit you will also get a good tune since a good tune will dramatically increase the life of your cars engine. Give Sam a call at gtmotorsports.com and talk to him, I am sure he will be happy to hear from you and address all your concerns and help you decide which application would be best for you. Also use google and search the forums, there is a ton of info on this site.
Frank

Trips 07-27-2010 12:40 AM

and thats how repetitive threads get started!!!

toner123 07-27-2010 12:46 AM

Well the thread is already there so why not answer the question. Does it really matter if a question gets asked multiple times? I just don't see why so many peoples *** get chapped when this happens. There is a simple solution here, don't open and read the thread. It's that simple believe it or not.
Frank

Trips 07-27-2010 12:50 AM

Thats cool to answer no biggie, but you end up duplicating the same answers every time the same question gets answered it's kinda gets old. I don't condone lazyness!!!

HKYStormFront 07-27-2010 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 646138)
Well the thread is already there so why not answer the question. Does it really matter if a question gets asked multiple times? I just don't see why so many peoples *** get chapped when this happens. There is a simple solution here, don't open and read the thread. It's that simple believe it or not.
Frank

yea but it's annoying to see the same question you just answered get posted again because the OP didn't look two or three lines down on the section to see that someone had recently posted the same question and the answer was there. you went to the trouble to post a lot of good information... but what if someone came on tomorrow and posted the same question... would you feel like answering it all again or would you way "wtf? i just answered this yesterday"? that's where a lot of people are coming from in threads like this

Trips 07-27-2010 12:54 AM

Thank You.

toner123 07-27-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 646143)
yea but it's annoying to see the same question you just answered get posted again because the OP didn't look two or three lines down on the section to see that someone had recently posted the same question and the answer was there. you went to the trouble to post a lot of good information... but what if someone came on tomorrow and posted the same question... would you feel like answering it all again or would you way "wtf? i just answered this yesterday"? that's where a lot of people are coming from in threads like this

I just wouldn't answer or refer them to the other thread and move on with my life lol. This is not that serious and yet people make it like it's the end of the world. I don't know maybe my patience level is higher and it takes something bigger to bother me.
Frank

HKYStormFront 07-27-2010 01:29 AM

no, we just know this isn't the first and it certainly won't be the last of these threads... we all made these types of threads when we first started on internet forums but now we've learned the search button :)

Trips 07-27-2010 01:39 AM

Turbo vs Supercharger

toner123 07-27-2010 02:47 AM

WikiAnswers - Is a turbo charger or supercharger better

Dr. JD 07-27-2010 05:42 AM

Anyone put a supercharger and a TT on a 370z yet??

:tup::roflpuke2:

Zsteve 07-27-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 646152)
I just wouldn't answer or refer them to the other thread and move on with my life lol. This is not that serious and yet people make it like it's the end of the world. I don't know maybe my patience level is higher and it takes something bigger to bother me.
Frank

kinda like you responding to the "I just wouldnt respond then".

370Zsteve 07-27-2010 07:59 AM

Calm down, girls.

W.O.W. 370Z 07-27-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. JD (Post 646302)
Anyone put a supercharger and a TT on a 370z yet??

:tup::roflpuke2:

Not a 370Z, but a ZR1 with a stock gutted S/C and TT down here in Miami.

http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0002/...2039195_10.jpg1300HP TURBO C6 CORVETTE ZR1 - NELSON PERFORMANCE

1slow370 07-28-2010 04:25 AM

that doesn't count as the supercharger is "gutted" meaning thet took the freakin rotors out so it does nothing (or else it would series boost and have diesel levels of intake pressure)

355890 07-29-2010 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 646141)
Thats cool to answer no biggie, but you end up duplicating the same answers every time the same question gets answered it's kinda gets old. I don't condone lazyness!!!

Maybe some folks don't have time to flip thru 75 pages to find one post that relates to a similiar question.

Ask away....that's what the site is up here for.

1slow370 07-29-2010 04:36 AM

no but you know what gets really annoying is when we have a stikied forced induction for noobs thread and people ignore/are to lazy to read it i think we should just delete it if no one reads the damn thing.

LateralG'z 07-29-2010 05:03 AM

Cat fight! life is about money and time is money! Mo money mo problems!

bullitt5897 07-29-2010 08:20 AM

lateralG'z hahahaha

Seriously, If you have a question about FI please read the threads and stickies before you post a new thread... I mean seriously, how hard is it to click the search button and type in your question.... :facepalm:

bullitt5897 07-29-2010 08:22 AM

this is what we will turn into if we continue on this path:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6bAZmEEIb0

LiquidZ 07-29-2010 10:03 AM

Omfg bullit hahahahahaha. Lol'd in my desk chair.

Zsteve 07-29-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 650191)
Cat fight! life is about money and time is money! Mo money mo problems!

then give me mo problems and the mo money

LateralG'z 07-29-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 650245)
lateralG'z hahahaha

Seriously, If you have a question about FI please read the threads and stickies before you post a new thread... I mean seriously, how hard is it to click the search button and type in your question.... :facepalm:

Hey! don't look at me, I didn't start this thread

LateralG'z 07-29-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 650772)
then give me mo problems and the mo money

Come on up to Oklahoma and come get your prize. Besides everything is bigger and better in Texas, u better not come hang with redneck okies from muskogee!! I have no idea why am posting that. Just putting it out there

theDreamer 07-29-2010 08:00 PM

I like superchargers or am I biased? ;)

Zsteve 07-29-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 651479)
Come on up to Oklahoma and come get your prize. Besides everything is bigger and better in Texas, u better not come hang with redneck okies from muskogee!! I have no idea why am posting that. Just putting it out there

The money is bigger here too but its still the same amount. Im a military brat and retiree and now working civil service and still have to deploy at times myself been all over the world so I can blend in with all peeps.

LateralG'z 07-29-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 651481)
I like superchargers or am I biased? ;)

Maybe a little, I know I am biased towards SC's!:excited:

Dr. JD 07-30-2010 10:16 AM

Damn W.O.W.
 
Damn, I know a couple cars have them and the h.p. is absolutely nuts in them....hey Sam, can this be done? What cost are you looking at?? :icon17::icon14:


Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 646359)
Not a 370Z, but a ZR1 with a stock gutted S/C and TT down here in Miami.

http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0002/...2039195_10.jpg1300HP TURBO C6 CORVETTE ZR1 - NELSON PERFORMANCE


Demon Z 07-30-2010 12:24 PM

"Go ask Alberto how that sh*t worked out for him"... LMFAO!!! Awesome Bullitt.

jeffreyfranz 08-08-2010 12:10 PM

Heat is the enemy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewDong (Post 645924)
Hey everyone, was debating on whether to go NA or FI, but would like to know any pros or cons with a forced induction setup. Like would there be certain parts that would wear out faster and need replacing? tx

I don't pretend to be an expert, but I would think that Turbos develop significantly more heat than SC. The VQ is already a hot-running engine. How much power do you really need? I think something like the Stillen set-up would be plenty, and it appears to be well engineered. Unless, of course, you are going all-out for racing and every hp counts. Good luck. :driving:

JB-370z 08-08-2010 03:05 PM

Turbo FTW! HAHAHA Seriously they are both good, but there is nothing like the sound of a turbo and the one button press to add more power. Every, and I mean every friend I have that has bought a supercharger for their car; did one of two things or both.

1. Wished they had more power
2. Wished they went turbo instead

This does not include you Dreamer but then again you have only had yours for a few weeks.

theDreamer 08-08-2010 03:31 PM

Give me six months and we will see how I stand, though I will need to borrow your car for a few days.

JB-370z 08-08-2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 665031)
Give me six months and we will see how I stand, though I will need to borrow your car for a few days.

Trust me buddy I know where you will stand! And I don't think it will take 6 months :tup:

1slow370 08-14-2010 06:41 AM

yeah he has the wrong type of supercharger. would have been better off turbo if centrifugal is your only choice. to me a supercharge = 6psi at 2750 if it can't do that go turbo.

jetguy 09-11-2010 12:18 PM

get nitrous. less money, easier install, instant power, doesn't have to be run all the time=less wear on engine. you will be owning all the forced induction turbos & S/C guys and laughing all the way to the bank when you whup their a$$es then tell them you have less than $1000 invested in the power mods that just shut down their $7000+ investment! WHUT WHUT?!

Chris@FsP 09-11-2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetguy (Post 717027)
get nitrous. less money, easier install, instant power, doesn't have to be run all the time=less wear on engine. you will be owning all the forced induction turbos & S/C guys and laughing all the way to the bank when you whup their a$$es then tell them you have less than $1000 invested in the power mods that just shut down their $7000+ investment! WHUT WHUT?!

My turbos are always there when I need them, and I don't need to worry about filling up the bottle before going out :stirthepot:

:D


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