GTM Performance Engineering VQ45VHR-Our Journey to The 1000 HP and Beyond

1slow370 · 09-20-2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaienZ34

It has yet to be implemented and a full on switch to motec has it's challenges, but it is a sound method. not to mention that a motec setup installed and tuned can cost around 10,000, and the new sensors, and servo drives would cost a few hundred more, but you would never have to worry about any mods that you couldn't tune for, you'd be the first to have tuneable vvel and launch control, and a motec can do anything and never fails.

bullitt5897 · 09-20-2010, 03:45 PM

@ Slow: Sam and I had this conversation of whether to run a motec or not and after our discussions Sam convinced me that he had a better method than the Motec system. Since we are running the HKS F-con Vpro full standalone unit along with Race Logic Traction control system and a few other pieces to bring this system whole.

I am also an Aim Sports dealer and will most likely be installing a AIM Data Acquisition system in the car with possibly a Digital dash in my headliner. that way I can monitor everything from the motor to the suspension and be able to overlay it on to a 3d mapping/google earth overlay of the race tracks that I go to.

1slow370 · 09-21-2010, 03:07 AM

yeah The only thing I'd say on the motec over what you have is the servo output for the vvel otherwise the fcon and the supporting boxes you have can do the rest of it. I was just mulling it over at 4a.m. running through the motec options and when i found the servo control it hit me. There is a way to tune VVEL right now, more accurately there has been ever since the car cam out. Can the FconV be hooked up to control the throttlebodies? If so i think i could still figure out a way to get you vvel lift control ability, it would just require a separate programmable micro controller box. If the FconV can handle the electronic throttlebodies or even a cable swap, this would be great as the price of an FconV would be much more affordable. I'm going to do some research and pile together a list of components.

Edit: as I am going to need to do this for personal reasons to get my twin screw to work anyway. Right now i kind of want to be able to just throw the damn stock ecu right the hell out of my car as there is going to be little to no support for it.

bullitt5897 · 09-21-2010, 10:37 AM

Slow you might want to give Sam a call and discuss with him the options and maybe throw some ideas around. *hint hint* Sam knows wayyyy more than anyone else in the aftermarket about the VVEL system and may be able to shed some light on how he can tune the system... I cannot say for sure if he has cracked the system or not but from all the evidence that I have seen and heard

I would put money on Sam knowing how to tune VVEL

SAM@GTM · 09-21-2010, 08:29 PM

Here is Some teaser pics of the GTR manifold, this was a big undertaken to say the least.

Sam

RCZ · 09-21-2010, 09:00 PM

damn that looks good.

DIGItonium · 09-21-2010, 09:53 PM

OMG!!!

I'm going to sleep a bit easier tonight knowing that you guys are successful getting this thing to fit with the cover. How about the strut bar? If the stock one doesn't fit, have you considered some sort of work around or GTM strut bar upgrade?

Oh yea, so how does one change oil with this manifold on?

ROC1ROB · 09-21-2010, 09:54 PM

Very nice Sam!!!!

Yet again, a leader!!!

SAM@GTM · 09-22-2010, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium

OMG!!!

I'm going to sleep a bit easier tonight knowing that you guys are successful getting this thing to fit with the cover. How about the strut bar? If the stock one doesn't fit, have you considered some sort of work around or GTM strut bar upgrade?

Oh yea, so how does one change oil with this manifold on?

Yes we will offer an upgraded strut bar to work with the GTR manifold. As for oil changes, nothing spacial that you will have to do beside taking the plastic cover to get to the engine fill cap .

Sam

SE · 09-22-2010, 03:01 AM

Interesting...

Jamaica · 09-22-2010, 03:03 AM

I would like to get that. Looks good. Need to come by sam so u can see the car and I could pick up the manifold lol

shumby · 09-22-2010, 04:08 AM

will thios work for a SC G37?

SAM@GTM · 09-22-2010, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumby

will thios work for a SC G37?

Yes it will .

Sam

shumby · 09-22-2010, 04:20 AM

I am so calling you wheni get homne. i got a ew things to run by ya. Thanks SAM great work as always.

88fc3sw/hx83 · 09-22-2010, 05:06 AM

Awesome build! I have some OEM R35 parts (R35 OEM FMIC cores, R35 OEM Turbos) for sale if anyone's interested...PM me.

09-20-2010, 03:45 PM	#467 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	@ Slow: Sam and I had this conversation of whether to run a motec or not and after our discussions Sam convinced me that he had a better method than the Motec system. Since we are running the HKS F-con Vpro full standalone unit along with Race Logic Traction control system and a few other pieces to bring this system whole. I am also an Aim Sports dealer and will most likely be installing a AIM Data Acquisition system in the car with possibly a Digital dash in my headliner. that way I can monitor everything from the motor to the suspension and be able to overlay it on to a 3d mapping/google earth overlay of the race tracks that I go to. __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-21-2010, 03:07 AM	#468 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	yeah The only thing I'd say on the motec over what you have is the servo output for the vvel otherwise the fcon and the supporting boxes you have can do the rest of it. I was just mulling it over at 4a.m. running through the motec options and when i found the servo control it hit me. There is a way to tune VVEL right now, more accurately there has been ever since the car cam out. Can the FconV be hooked up to control the throttlebodies? If so i think i could still figure out a way to get you vvel lift control ability, it would just require a separate programmable micro controller box. If the FconV can handle the electronic throttlebodies or even a cable swap, this would be great as the price of an FconV would be much more affordable. I'm going to do some research and pile together a list of components. Edit: as I am going to need to do this for personal reasons to get my twin screw to work anyway. Right now i kind of want to be able to just throw the damn stock ecu right the hell out of my car as there is going to be little to no support for it. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-21-2010, 10:37 AM	#469 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	Slow you might want to give Sam a call and discuss with him the options and maybe throw some ideas around. hint hint Sam knows wayyyy more than anyone else in the aftermarket about the VVEL system and may be able to shed some light on how he can tune the system... I cannot say for sure if he has cracked the system or not but from all the evidence that I have seen and heard I would put money on Sam knowing how to tune VVEL __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-21-2010, 08:29 PM	#470 (permalink)
SAM@GTM NOT AN ACTIVE SPONSOR. DO NOT BUY Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 913 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	Here is Some teaser pics of the GTR manifold, this was a big undertaken to say the least. Sam Last edited by SAM@GTM; 09-21-2010 at 11:39 PM.

09-21-2010, 09:53 PM	#472 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	OMG!!! I'm going to sleep a bit easier tonight knowing that you guys are successful getting this thing to fit with the cover. How about the strut bar? If the stock one doesn't fit, have you considered some sort of work around or GTM strut bar upgrade? Oh yea, so how does one change oil with this manifold on? __________________

09-21-2010, 09:00 PM	#471 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	damn that looks good.

09-21-2010, 09:54 PM	#473 (permalink)
ROC1ROB Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 201 Drives: 09 MT BS Base/Sports Rep Power: 15	Very nice Sam!!!! Yet again, a leader!!!

09-22-2010, 03:01 AM	#475 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23	Interesting...

09-22-2010, 03:03 AM	#476 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 73	I would like to get that. Looks good. Need to come by sam so u can see the car and I could pick up the manifold lol

09-22-2010, 04:08 AM	#477 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	will thios work for a SC G37? __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

09-22-2010, 04:20 AM	#479 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	I am so calling you wheni get homne. i got a ew things to run by ya. Thanks SAM great work as always. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

09-22-2010, 05:06 AM	#480 (permalink)
88fc3sw/hx83 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Posts: 18 Drives: R35 Rep Power: 15	Awesome build! I have some OEM R35 parts (R35 OEM FMIC cores, R35 OEM Turbos) for sale if anyone's interested...PM me.

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