FI and Ethanol Blend?

Red__Zed · 05-07-2011, 10:03 PM

Holy bump, and so much misinformation in this thread.

roplusbee · 05-07-2011, 10:24 PM

<======= Confused!

Kastley85891 · 05-08-2011, 12:01 AM

Finished up an 'E' tune on an 08 STi yesterday, 22 psi, 20 degs of timing through midrange and 11:8.1 fuel at WOT, thing was quick....

Brazilbro · 05-08-2011, 12:31 AM

I'm looking into switching to E-85 now. Trying to get a quote on installing a fuel cell/fuel system and bigger injectors. So far the companies I emailed have not replied.. Might have to hit up AMS.

CrownR426 · 05-08-2011, 01:15 AM

Is 93 bad?
That's all I've been putting in my z.

Kastley85891 · 05-08-2011, 07:03 AM

93 is great, especially when you had 2 years on 91 lol

ResIpsa · 05-08-2011, 08:16 AM

I live in Virginia and all the pumps are 10% ethanol. I follow Pat Goss's (automotive guru, MotorWeek TV, Goss's Garage radio show) suggestion of adding some Stabil to my tank every couple of fill ups.

This has the added benefit of removing any water that may have formed in your gas tank.

Stabil now makes a dedicated ethanol treatment as well.

KusoSama · 06-12-2011, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports

Ethenol has not lived up to the expectations and the promises that were given about the nature of the product. For instance my dad had a ethenol rated avalanche and that truck made sh!t for power and torque. The truck also made nominal fuel mileage gains and overall was a pain in the butt!!! Now we traded in that avalanche for one that was the regular engine and found that it made more than 35+hp than the last and was only about 1-2 real mpg less than the ethenol on a bad day. Ethenol to me was a ploy by lobbyist toake money for a certain group of grain farmers and investors. Ethenol = over hyped fuel additive like so many other products.

Trust me she probably got bad gas! I had that happened in my s2000 from quicktrip when they switched to their winter seasonal blend which so happened to have WATER in the fuel!!!! I thought I blew a headgasket!!!! Nothing like driving sown the road and then wam no throttle response and white smoke coming out of the exhaust! I was freaked as I just put in my emanage ultimate with a new aggressive race tune... I literally shat bricks!

Think of ethanol as the governments way of being a shady bar. You go in paying for pure alcohol but what you get is watered down beer.

Ethanol just allows them to give you the same amount of fuel but not use as much petroleum and still charge you the same astronomical price at the pump.

<<< GOV happy we all don't mind a corroded engine and higher gas prices.

DIGItonium · 06-13-2011, 09:13 AM

I don't know much about this stuff. Stage II on the way, and I don't want it to mess anything up even for daily driving:

RX8Club.com - View Single Post - Warning about 10% Ethanol mix on turbo cars

TexasZ34 · 06-13-2011, 01:27 PM

Wow thanks alot dude i've always heard that E85 was good for boosted cars but i never worked the kinks.

DIGItonium · 06-13-2011, 08:02 PM

I guess it's fine as long as it is tuned to support it. It looks like he has to dump more fuel to reduce the likelihood of running into a lean condition. Eh... this stuff is way over my head.

IIRC, ethanol warning signs are removed some gas stations so it's a hit or miss. That's pretty scary, but it would be nice to see some official testing and results other than stuff I've found here:

Ethanol Producer Magazine | EthanolProducer.com
The Independent > Archives > Opinions > Letters > Don?t remove ethanol labels at pump

I don't know how reliable the site below is, but it mentions some of the symptoms people described like water in the tank (possibly leading to leaner condition?)
List: E10 Engine Damage & Performance Issues.

05-07-2011, 10:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
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05-08-2011, 12:01 AM	#18 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Finished up an 'E' tune on an 08 STi yesterday, 22 psi, 20 degs of timing through midrange and 11:8.1 fuel at WOT, thing was quick.... __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

05-08-2011, 12:31 AM	#19 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	I'm looking into switching to E-85 now. Trying to get a quote on installing a fuel cell/fuel system and bigger injectors. So far the companies I emailed have not replied.. Might have to hit up AMS. __________________ Juke AWD/240Z SR20 08 Evo 10(Stage 2) SOLD Fastest Sport 6spd 370Z 11.8 @126.5SOLD

05-08-2011, 01:15 AM	#20 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	Is 93 bad? That's all I've been putting in my z. __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

05-08-2011, 07:03 AM	#21 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	93 is great, especially when you had 2 years on 91 lol __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

05-07-2011, 10:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Holy bump, and so much misinformation in this thread.

05-08-2011, 08:16 AM	#22 (permalink)
ResIpsa Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 564 Drives: 09 RACING HEN Rep Power: 338	Stabil I live in Virginia and all the pumps are 10% ethanol. I follow Pat Goss's (automotive guru, MotorWeek TV, Goss's Garage radio show) suggestion of adding some Stabil to my tank every couple of fill ups. This has the added benefit of removing any water that may have formed in your gas tank. Stabil now makes a dedicated ethanol treatment as well. __________________ The Reed Law Firm; Michael Fasano VA Attorney and Counselor at Law: A Virginia Traffic, Criminal, and Family Lawyer.https://reedlawva.com/

06-13-2011, 09:13 AM	#24 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	I don't know much about this stuff. Stage II on the way, and I don't want it to mess anything up even for daily driving: RX8Club.com - View Single Post - Warning about 10% Ethanol mix on turbo cars

06-13-2011, 01:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
TexasZ34 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 78 Drives: 10 40TH 370Z KAV M6 Rep Power: 14	Wow thanks alot dude i've always heard that E85 was good for boosted cars but i never worked the kinks.

06-13-2011, 08:02 PM	#26 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	I guess it's fine as long as it is tuned to support it. It looks like he has to dump more fuel to reduce the likelihood of running into a lean condition. Eh... this stuff is way over my head. IIRC, ethanol warning signs are removed some gas stations so it's a hit or miss. That's pretty scary, but it would be nice to see some official testing and results other than stuff I've found here: Ethanol Producer Magazine \| EthanolProducer.com The Independent > Archives > Opinions > Letters > Don?t remove ethanol labels at pump I don't know how reliable the site below is, but it mentions some of the symptoms people described like water in the tank (possibly leading to leaner condition?) List: E10 Engine Damage & Performance Issues.

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