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Hmm, 3" was recommended for bigger turbo setups on the STI (2.5l F4). Much smaller engine, granted target boost was 23psi for me then, but I would imagine the 3.7TT

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Old 05-28-2010, 05:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hmm, 3" was recommended for bigger turbo setups on the STI (2.5l F4). Much smaller engine, granted target boost was 23psi for me then, but I would imagine the 3.7TT flows a lot more than the 2.5T did. Freer is better for FI apps. .02
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no 3" really is not a must have for all applications and ecspecially if you are not pushing too much power.

I would stick to what the pros at GTM say you can do and what is safe.
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Hmm, 3" was recommended for bigger turbo setups on the STI (2.5l F4). Much smaller engine, granted target boost was 23psi for me then, but I would imagine the 3.7TT flows a lot more than the 2.5T did. Freer is better for FI apps. .02
Single piping vs dual maybe?? Dual 2.5 would be 5 inches of total piping.
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Single piping vs dual maybe?? Dual 2.5 would be 5 inches of total piping.
That is not an accurate statement to my knowledge. A 3" single flows more than a dual 2.5" setup. Someone told me once that the single 3 flowed more. Dual 2.5 doesn't equal 5 in this case. The other great thing is that a single 3 weighs less. I loved the JIC Ti I had on my 350z.
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Hmm, 3" was recommended for bigger turbo setups on the STI (2.5l F4). Much smaller engine, granted target boost was 23psi for me then, but I would imagine the 3.7TT flows a lot more than the 2.5T did. Freer is better for FI apps. .02
Single vs. dual is apples to oranges. Bigger is not always better, even when speaking of FI applications. If it were, why not go 4" or 5"? The reason is that exhaust flows in pulses and if it gets too cool due to a slower rate of flow (bigger exhaust will flow more slowly..especially if oversized for the application) the fluid dynamics change as well as the weight of the air mass. This can cause the exhaust to "back up" in the exhaust sytem and the motor to work harder to expel it.

In truth, with the bends, length, resonators and such in place in different exhausts, it is hard to truly say what diameter exhaust will flow the best. Only flow rate tests can determine this. Who has time for that?

EDIT - BTW, the most restrictive portion of the exhaust system is the manifold(s).
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single vs. Dual is apples to oranges. Bigger is not always better, even when speaking of fi applications. If it were, why not go 4" or 5"? The reason is that exhaust flows in pulses and if it gets too cool due to a slower rate of flow (bigger exhaust will flow more slowly..especially if oversized for the application) the fluid dynamics change as well as the weight of the air mass. This can cause the exhaust to "back up" in the exhaust sytem and the motor to work harder to expel it.

In truth, with the bends, length, resonators and such in place in different exhausts, it is hard to truly say what diameter exhaust will flow the best. Only flow rate tests can determine this. Who has time for that?

edit - btw, the most restrictive portion of the exhaust system is the manifold(s).
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yeah i think 2.5 is fine for this setup..i believe the greddy kit is externally gated with a dump pipes..
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definitely 2x2.5 does not equal 5

a 2.5" exhaust has an area of 4.91" to flow the air
a 3" has 7.07, so dual 2.5 > single 3"
and a 5" would have 19.64 square inches, huge!
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yeah i would have to agree that two 2.5 setups will flow better than a single 3...the single 3 is less weight but the weight is relatively low to the ground so it really wont affect handling much..also the merging of two pipes into a single collector does create some extra turbulance as opposed to two separate exits..
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however i believe the Greddy kit uses disco potatos which are known to push 3 inch piping without any trouble..
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however i believe the Greddy kit uses disco potatos which are known to push 3 inch piping without any trouble..
Actually, TD06SH-20g's.

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^oh 20g's aren't too bad..id probably ditch those however n run 28r's..haha
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Well, to play devils advocate, I am running a 3" catted down pipe, into a 2.5" true dual exhaust. I am tuned at 470RWHP and locked at 6.5 psi.
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Just wondering you guys install a turbo timer? If so how was the wiring done. Looking at installing 1 but been working at the wiring for sometime.now
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Just wondering you guys install a turbo timer? If so how was the wiring done. Looking at installing 1 but been working at the wiring for sometime.now
No turbo timer for me. Water cooled turbos do not really call for one. Though, just out of habit I do sit and idle for a minute or so before shutting down if I have banged on the car just before coming to a stop.
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