Superchargers for the 370Z?

travisjb · 06-11-2009, 06:29 PM

k, thanks... i'm new to the FI thing so not familiar with how much work is involved etc... will keep an eye on this thread

shabarivas · 06-11-2009, 06:57 PM

Seriously guys... i cant wait for you to develop something that will net me close to 350+ whp w/ a carb number and a worry free warranty

travisjb · 06-11-2009, 07:58 PM

we can get close to 350whp without fi

ZforMe · 06-11-2009, 08:07 PM

I'm hoping for 400+ to the wheels with hfc's, exhaust, & supercharger kit.

Minicobra1 · 06-12-2009, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ZforMe

I'm hoping for 400+ to the wheels with hfc's, exhaust, & supercharger kit.

Yes, that would be a good number. I wouldn't spend around $5K for anything less then a net of 80-100whp. When you think about it, that's $1K for every 20HP gained.

Phimosis · 06-16-2009, 09:19 PM

When will we get our day?

The VQ37VHR has been around as long as the LS3.

john370z · 06-16-2009, 09:25 PM

Any guesses out there as to when we will have a roots style supercharger? Or any good supercharger for that matter. I hate waiting...

Junior370z · 06-17-2009, 01:17 AM

I'm headed up to Stillen tomorrow morning. I'm going to ask how they are progressing with the S/C kit. I hope they come out with this kit soon. I'll put myself on the waiting list if they have one LOL!

CBRich · 06-17-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

When will we get our day?
The VQ37VHR has been around as long as the LS3.

Of course that small block has been around since the 50s sooo . . .

Phimosis · 06-18-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

Of course that small block has been around since the 50s sooo . . .

I don't think there is a single part that is interchangeable between the LS3 and the cast iron 4.3L OHV V8 that came out in '55, making 180 (gross) hp.

The Gen III Chevy V8 engines came out in 1997. The only thing that is the same between Gen I and Gen III engines is the bore spacing, which Chevy did only for historical reasons. The water jackets and head bolt spacing are different, so the heads are not interchangeable.

If you want to compare apples to apples, the Nissan VQ engines came out in 1994, making them 3 years older than the Chevy Gen III engines.

The most recent iteration, the Chevy LS3 came out in 2008, the same year as the VQ37 arrived.

Within 2 months of the Camaro being released by a bankrupt company that was obviously unstable for more than a year, the aftermarket swoons in with a kit that lays down 560 horespower to the wheels.

Where is the aftermarket support for the Z? It's technologically a superior sportscar that will have great sales worldwide. The Camaro on the other hand is a (low end) niche car that will only sell well in North America. You would think that aftermarket companies would be scrambling to get the VQ37 into top form. It's not like no one knew in 2007 when the VQ37 was announced that is would make its way to the Z car.

Josh@STILLEN · 06-18-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

Where is the aftermarket support for the Z?

Some of us are here..

Crash · 06-18-2009, 02:24 AM

LOL! The thing is that the LSx motor represent a huge achievement. One of the reasons people love them so much is for their versatility. The VQ37 is far superior technology-wise to the LS3, but the reason the aftermarket swarms to the LSx motors is because they're not only easier to make power on with virtually any mod, but they're extremely easy to tune. LSx motors are far less complex and are very easy to pull apart to work on. With the VQ37, tuners aren't even sure about how to tune the VVEL yet. LS motors finally get variable timing, but a simple VT lockout turns that off and you're back to the simplicity of the LSx. Also, remember that the LSx motors are single cam push rod motors, making cam changes a lot easier too.

LiquidZ · 06-18-2009, 12:45 PM

I'm hoping Stillen's S/C is not a roots type blower, but rather a centri.

john370z · 06-18-2009, 06:09 PM

I vote for a "roots" type! More torque is more useful on the street. T

LiquidZ · 06-19-2009, 12:42 PM

If its going to be a roots type blower, hopefully the rotors are Eaton's TVS design.

06-11-2009, 06:29 PM	#121 (permalink)
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ZforMe Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 238 Drives: 370Z Sport Auto PG Rep Power: 16	I'm hoping for 400+ to the wheels with hfc's, exhaust, & supercharger kit. __________________ 13.369 @ 102.73 Bone Stock. BERK HFC's installed 5/14/09 @ 1490miles, 13.212 @ 106.15. Cobb Post MAF Hoses installed 3/20/10 @ 5,043miles, future: FI exhaust with 18" res and s/s cans.

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Phimosis Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oildale, CA Posts: 412 Drives: 2013 911 4S Rep Power: 416	When will we get our day? The VQ37VHR has been around as long as the LS3. Last edited by Phimosis; 06-16-2009 at 10:43 PM.

06-16-2009, 09:25 PM	#127 (permalink)
john370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: new mexico Posts: 141 Drives: 2007 335i coupe Rep Power: 283	Any guesses out there as to when we will have a roots style supercharger? Or any good supercharger for that matter. I hate waiting... __________________ 2009 370Z, Had Berk HFC and un-installed them cuz too noisy!, Stillen CBE, 10mm rear wheel spacer, K&N drop in filters. Blower to come...

06-11-2009, 06:57 PM	#122 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Seriously guys... i cant wait for you to develop something that will net me close to 350+ whp w/ a carb number and a worry free warranty

06-17-2009, 01:17 AM	#128 (permalink)
Junior370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Vegas Age: 50 Posts: 1,024 Drives: over the speed limit Rep Power: 293	I'm headed up to Stillen tomorrow morning. I'm going to ask how they are progressing with the S/C kit. I hope they come out with this kit soon. I'll put myself on the waiting list if they have one LOL! __________________ DON'T DO IT! ( Click to show/hide ) Stillen CBECAI-U/D PulleyGround KitSwaysSetrab Oil CoolerIchiba Rear Camber KitAgility CoiloverBerk HFCTechnosquare TuneGT-R ButtonVenaci MeshSP Performance Cross Drilled/Slotted RotorsSPC Toe BoltsBomex LipMud flapsAero Jacket Type III WingSold

06-18-2009, 02:24 AM	#132 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	LOL! The thing is that the LSx motor represent a huge achievement. One of the reasons people love them so much is for their versatility. The VQ37 is far superior technology-wise to the LS3, but the reason the aftermarket swarms to the LSx motors is because they're not only easier to make power on with virtually any mod, but they're extremely easy to tune. LSx motors are far less complex and are very easy to pull apart to work on. With the VQ37, tuners aren't even sure about how to tune the VVEL yet. LS motors finally get variable timing, but a simple VT lockout turns that off and you're back to the simplicity of the LSx. Also, remember that the LSx motors are single cam push rod motors, making cam changes a lot easier too. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

06-18-2009, 12:45 PM	#133 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	I'm hoping Stillen's S/C is not a roots type blower, but rather a centri. __________________

06-18-2009, 06:09 PM	#134 (permalink)
john370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: new mexico Posts: 141 Drives: 2007 335i coupe Rep Power: 283	I vote for a "roots" type! More torque is more useful on the street. T __________________ 2009 370Z, Had Berk HFC and un-installed them cuz too noisy!, Stillen CBE, 10mm rear wheel spacer, K&N drop in filters. Blower to come...

06-19-2009, 12:42 PM	#135 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	If its going to be a roots type blower, hopefully the rotors are Eaton's TVS design. __________________