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Old 04-13-2010, 09:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I do understand the first GTM 350z kits had issues. However, I have their latest kit and it is all numbered so you know where everything goes. Also, it's not that hard to piece one of their kits together I was able to lay the entire kit out on the floor in it's correct place so that I could make sure all the pieces lined up and that nothing was missing. So as far as I understand the kits have come a long way from the first 350z kits. My biggest complaint was forged performance bad mouthing one of their suppliers and then trying to sell me a kit from greddy that did not meet my goals and still used journal turbos. Supposedly these are tested more than GTM kits.... I think not! Greddy kits no matter what platform are pretty much identical. The only differences are a few pieces to make their kits fit your car platform. I have never seen any evidence that they are a superior product over GTM.
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Two other reputable shops attempted to sway me away from GTM kits and to go with different ones. It is business. Also I have heard many horror stories about GTM kits missing parts and fitment issues, including 350z and 370z kits.

The point is no company or shop is perfect. This online tirade against Forged will backfire. Time will tell.
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I have also inquired about GTM's TT kit from a very reputable shop. They gave me the same response that Sharif did by recommending the Greddy kit. They cited fitment issues as the main issue.
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I do understand the first GTM 350z kits had issues. However, I have their latest kit and it is all numbered so you know where everything goes. Also, it's not that hard to piece one of their kits together I was able to lay the entire kit out on the floor in it's correct place so that I could make sure all the pieces lined up and that nothing was missing. So as far as I understand the kits have come a long way from the first 350z kits. My biggest complaint was forged performance bad mouthing one of their suppliers and then trying to sell me a kit from greddy that did not meet my goals and still used journal turbos. Supposedly these are tested more than GTM kits.... I think not! Greddy kits no matter what platform are pretty much identical. The only differences are a few pieces to make their kits fit your car platform. I have never seen any evidence that they are a superior product over GTM.

As far as this Journal Turbo issue, which I can understand since there used to be overheating issues, but I've been told they are a lot better than they used to be. Just wanna throw that out there..of course turbos in general are better than they used to be hehe.
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Bullit so how does this effect that 1000hp Z project?
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i hope somebody from Z1 chimes into this since they've done the install already... another reason might be that some tuners are suggesting the Greddy kit is because there is more $$$/incentive for them to sell it than the GTM kit... considering that there is a lot less interest on the Greddy than the GTM... like what everybody says, this is a business...
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Wouldn't be surprised if this kit on Juan's G37 was the first production kit for the G37, hence the obvious fitment issues...

Too many gaps in information and parts of stories left out. This whole situation reeks...
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Wouldn't be surprised if this kit on Juan's G37 was the first production kit for the G37, hence the obvious fitment issues...

Too many gaps in information and parts of stories left out. This whole situation reeks...
i don't think that's the case... im pretty sure they wouldn't have a hard time getting a G37 in so cal to check fitment before releasing it...also from what i can gather from Sharif's response is that he admitted that the installation was his employee's fault and have let go of the guy... i mean i dont think it is that hard to pick up the phone and give sam a call if you any questions on installing a $6,000 to $8,000 piece of equipment, right?
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I have also inquired about GTM's TT kit from a very reputable shop. They gave me the same response that Sharif did by recommending the Greddy kit. They cited fitment issues as the main issue.


We recently installed the GTM TT kit on the 7AT. Yes the first kit was harder to install because it was the first time. But it only took our tech 1.2 weeks to perform the install. The instructions were on point as was GTM when we called to get the reflash. Our lead tech Spencer has plenty of experience with high performance cars and more patience than most(only issue he had was cutting his hand on his exhaust fabbing).

The Greddy kit could potentially be easier to fit because there are fewer parts, such as water lines. However these parts help make the GTM kit a superior kit in terms of reliability and performance with BB turbos. It is possible to get the GTM kit to fit correctly if you have the patience to do it right.
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i don't think that's the case... im pretty sure they wouldn't have a hard time getting a G37 in so cal to check fitment before releasing it...also from what i can gather from Sharif's response is that he admitted that the installation was his employee's fault and have let go of the guy... i mean i dont think it is that hard to pick up the phone and give sam a call if you any questions on installing a $6,000 to $8,000 piece of equipment, right?

check out the other forum...I was right. "This was the first production G37 kit that left GTM's facility, and it was not an easy situation." -FP

GTM kits have a history of missing parts and fitment issues. It is what it is.
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I do understand the first GTM 350z kits had issues. However, I have their latest kit and it is all numbered so you know where everything goes. Also, it's not that hard to piece one of their kits together I was able to lay the entire kit out on the floor in it's correct place so that I could make sure all the pieces lined up and that nothing was missing. So as far as I understand the kits have come a long way from the first 350z kits. My biggest complaint was forged performance bad mouthing one of their suppliers and then trying to sell me a kit from greddy that did not meet my goals and still used journal turbos. Supposedly these are tested more than GTM kits.... I think not! Greddy kits no matter what platform are pretty much identical. The only differences are a few pieces to make their kits fit your car platform. I have never seen any evidence that they are a superior product over GTM.
Im talking about their 370z TT kit... they more or less had to design it for GTM because it had a bunch of parts missing and other parts that were for 350z.

I too have had several people tell me to stay away from GTM...people who know Sam personally. Its always the same story: good products, but that shady business. Now I see the products aren't that great either so what am I supposed to believe?

Then I hear all you guys raving about GTM and thats very confusing because I know you people aren't dumb. Hopefully for all you folks, GTM comes through with the goods. When enough people who have been in the industry for decades tell you the same thing, it just makes me wonder.
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Two other reputable shops attempted to sway me away from GTM kits and to go with different ones. It is business. Also I have heard many horror stories about GTM kits missing parts and fitment issues, including 350z and 370z kits.

The point is no company or shop is perfect. This online tirade against Forged will backfire. Time will tell.
I think you are trying too hard, for the record there has never been any design change in our G37 kit sense day one. So what ever was sent back then is what the customer has installed on his G37 on his back in his own garage.

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Sam, I think to knock all this back and forth out with customers and your possible dealers. Just do a DIY! so customers can see. Im sure it will be sticky on here. I think this will bring more people your way and show that the kit has no flaws or fitment issues.
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I think you are trying too hard, for the record there has never been any design change in our G37 kit sense day one. So what ever was sent back then is what the customer has installed on his G37 on his back in his own garage.




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Sam, I think to knock all this back and forth out with customers and your possible dealers. Just do a DIY! so customers can see. Im sure it will be sticky on here. I think this will bring more people your way and show that the kit has no flaws or fitment issues.
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Guess you missing the point. A company shouldnt have to post ppls threads to proof fitment issues. Its in sams best interest to take the time and do it himself at his own shop. So he can have better confidence knowing the kits fit. Obvious there are issues.
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