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Baker 04-09-2010 01:01 PM

Zen and the next level for Project Mothra
 
Ever since our first discussions about Project Mothra, people have been encouraging us to explore forced induction. But, after discussions of the "Zen" nature of true Japanese tuning and how it's not all about the HP, plus the amazing results we got from Smoky's tune on our car that added only 20-25 wheel HP, but made a world of difference, we were perplexed. Should we venture down the FI road, given we already have what is probably the most perfect 370Z setup imaginable? Or, if we do go that route, do we do it Mothra-style and really blow it out? What do you guys think?

Trips 04-09-2010 01:10 PM

Balls to the Wall!!! Take no Prisoners

LaSeeno 04-09-2010 01:12 PM

You are asking us questions that only you have the answers to. :happydance:

I've just always wanted to say that.

TT setup. Please do it.

m4a1mustang 04-09-2010 01:12 PM

FI. The car looks like it has 500+ hp. You know the drill.

Vegitto-kun 04-09-2010 01:49 PM

internet says

http://images.encyclopediadramatica...._it_faggot.jpg

96bigbody 04-09-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 488448)
FI. The car looks like it has 500+ hp. You know the drill.


:iagree:

phelan 04-09-2010 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan (Post 488431)
Ever since our first discussions about Project Mothra, people have been encouraging us to explore forced induction. But, after discussions of the "Zen" nature of true Japanese tuning and how it's not all about the HP, plus the amazing results we got from Smoky's tune on our car that added only 20-25 wheel HP, but made a world of difference, we were perplexed. Should we venture down the FI road, given we already have what is probably the most perfect 370Z setup imaginable? Or, if we do go that route, do we do it Mothra-style and really blow it out? What do you guys think?

I think you answered your own question there, boys.

nuTinmuch 04-09-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan (Post 488431)
Ever since our first discussions about Project Mothra, people have been encouraging us to explore forced induction. But, after discussions of the "Zen" nature of true Japanese tuning and how it's not all about the HP, plus the amazing results we got from Smoky's tune on our car that added only 20-25 wheel HP, but made a world of difference, we were perplexed. Should we venture down the FI road, given we already have what is probably the most perfect 370Z setup imaginable? Or, if we do go that route, do we do it Mothra-style and really blow it out? What do you guys think?

Make it something the entire community can be proud of.

Twin Turbo.

Baker 04-09-2010 04:25 PM

Not many takers on the zen approach, huh? We actually spent quite some time with John P. of http://maydaygarage.com/ who makes a pretty adamant argument for understanding the subtleties of true Japanese tuning. And make no mistake, Mothra is a potent beast now. The rush of power is immediate. Every single added drop of performance and power is accessible, almost by shear intuition. It's clear that The Master's work has made a difference.

That said, a Smoky-style burnout (by a professional driver down a closed-course that vaguely resembles Westheimer) by virtue of a few hundred extra horses might be fun, too. We just think maybe this car deserves a kit nobody's seen before.

It looks like you feel the same way.

Keep the comments coming on facebook: Project Mothra | Facebook . As we said, this is only the beginning.

phelan 04-09-2010 04:27 PM

Oh I'm all for the 'zen' approach. But your own website says you'd build a beast that cannot be contained. You don't want it contained?

Forced induction is the way to go :tup:

Baker 04-09-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 488836)
Oh I'm all for the 'zen' approach. But your own website says you'd build a beast that cannot be contained. You don't want it contained?

Forced induction is the way to go :tup:

:werd:

RCZ 04-09-2010 05:03 PM

N/A high revving if you want Zen. I would looove to see NA.... but I'd be pretty happy to see a built supercharger setup too. I don't know that I would like to see another TT built block car though...

Either way this has been a fantastic build so far.

Red370 04-09-2010 05:05 PM

I want this thing to have the GTM SDS installed, i wanna see some actual real world abuse testing done on this thing because it hasnt been done yet.

StealthZ 04-09-2010 05:09 PM

Go all in...

Vegitto-kun 04-09-2010 05:19 PM

1000+WHP built plz.

Red370 04-09-2010 05:42 PM

Ah screw it, design a Veyron eater.

1slow370 04-10-2010 12:54 AM

Zen? Psh please if you wan't zen go park the damn thing outside a Buddhist temple and appreciate how at one with the environment it is while it isn't running. I love the japanese approach I see it as 2 guys in the car going for a drive

Driver: Ahh oh yeah feel that?

Passenger: what? this isn't much faster than my HR.

Driver: no no your supposed to be appreciating the ZEN

Passenger: OH sorry i didn't realize that, well you do have a nice interior

370Zsteve 04-10-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 488974)
N/A high revving if you want Zen. I would looove to see NA.... but I'd be pretty happy to see a built supercharger setup too. I don't know that I would like to see another TT built block car though...

Either way this has been a fantastic build so far.

:icon18: x2

Kyle@STILLEN 04-10-2010 01:46 PM

I say you ship that car out here, let us build a motor and supercharger for you, and let's see what this puppy can do! I know you want this car to be different, and I promise you, I have enough ideas in my head to make it different...

Real Mothra isn't very "zen"

http://www.wired.com/images/article/...illa_500px.jpg

m4a1mustang 04-10-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 489696)
Zen? Psh please if you wan't zen go park the damn thing outside a Buddhist temple and appreciate how at one with the environment it is while it isn't running. I love the japanese approach I see it as 2 guys in the car going for a drive

Driver: Ahh oh yeah feel that?

Passenger: what? this isn't much faster than my HR.

Driver: no no your supposed to be appreciating the ZEN

Passenger: OH sorry i didn't realize that, well you do have a nice interior

Agreed.

de_dust 04-10-2010 02:51 PM

i wanted to do this idea for my z but i cant justify it enough to follow through with it...

how bout a twin rotrex supercharger system...

>135I 04-10-2010 08:06 PM

I would like to see it done right, all blown out. New low compression pistons then have Stillen do up a custom super charger kit, put up some big numbers, and finally just because you can feed her a bottle.

Chris@FsP 04-10-2010 08:22 PM

Twinzzzzz :D

Valentino 04-11-2010 01:19 AM

N/A.

1slow370 04-12-2010 04:12 AM

i think you need to stay different how about electic superchargers? i'm sure you could fit like 6 in there

370Zsteve 04-12-2010 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 490143)
I say you ship that car out here, let us build a motor and supercharger for you, and let's see what this puppy can do! I know you want this car to be different, and I promise you, I have enough ideas in my head to make it different...

Someone at Baker-Jackson should take Stillen up on this. Huge marketing potential, guys. The result could easily wind up in Road & Track.

Well?

RCZ 04-12-2010 06:49 PM

+1 on that.

370Zsteve 04-12-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 492928)
Someone at Baker-Jackson should take Stillen up on this. Huge marketing potential, guys. The result could easily wind up in Road & Track.

Well?

Well?

1slow370 04-13-2010 03:59 AM

NAW DOOD gotta stay JDM FT(resale)W

370Zsteve 04-13-2010 07:11 AM

bump

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 490143)
I say you ship that car out here, let us build a motor and supercharger for you, and let's see what this puppy can do! I know you want this car to be different, and I promise you, I have enough ideas in my head to make it different...

Real Mothra isn't very "zen"

http://www.wired.com/images/article/...illa_500px.jpg


Baker 04-13-2010 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 493954)
Well?

We have actually been in contact with the guys over at Stillen over the last few days. They are putting together a proposal for us as we speak. Once its done, we will all sit down and see what they have to say, and if it sounds good, go for it! We'll be sure to make sure we keep everyone here informed. Any ideas are welcome!

Caravanshaka 04-13-2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 490143)
I say you ship that car out here, let us build a motor and supercharger for you, and let's see what this puppy can do! I know you want this car to be different, and I promise you, I have enough ideas in my head to make it different...

Real Mothra isn't very "zen"

^ This or go home IMO

B1nks 04-13-2010 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 488974)
N/A high revving if you want Zen. I would looove to see NA.... but I'd be pretty happy to see a built supercharger setup too. I don't know that I would like to see another TT built block car though...

Either way this has been a fantastic build so far.


I would love to see this N/A setup or the SC Stillen proposal without a doubt. I feel the Zen approach is great if you're doing Touge or some sort of class oriented track driving when you want to keep within a class.

SIDE NOTE: For anyone curious about this Amuse kit, I saw it at Import Reactor, and it looks WAY better in person. THE ONLY thing I don't like about it was on the rear bumper, the part in the middle that is black, I would rather not have glossy but would rather flat black. Loved it other than that. I feel the Zen approach is great if you're doing Touge or some sort of class oriented track driving when you want to keep within

Vegitto-kun 04-13-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 494759)
I would love to see this N/A setup or the SC Stillen proposal without a doubt. I feel the Zen approach is great if you're doing Touge or some sort of class oriented track driving when you want to keep within a class.

SIDE NOTE: For anyone curious about this Amuse kit, I saw it at Import Reactor, and it looks WAY better in person. THE ONLY thing I don't like about it was on the rear bumper, the part in the middle that is black, I would rather not have glossy but would rather flat black. Loved it other than that. I feel the Zen approach is great if you're doing Touge or some sort of class oriented track driving when you want to keep within

well you can color it whatever you want since it comes in unpainted.

Supergoji 04-13-2010 10:15 PM

well if the car looked stock and just had a drop and wheels i'd say ya why not appreciate the ECU tune from smokey.

but when it looks a like a porsche GT2 it better have the power to back it up. at least in the USA.

and oh godzilla>mothra

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