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Sorry Frank i got to disagree with most of your comments. This thread is exactly the place to keep rehashing why the Stillen SC is not the SC of choise.

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Old 02-12-2011, 04:27 AM   #2521 (permalink)
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Sorry Frank i got to disagree with most of your comments. This thread is exactly the place to keep rehashing why the Stillen SC is not the SC of choise. I believe that when the thread is bumped that the facts should be brought to light. And I in no way see how stating that so far no one has returned a GTM SC to Stillen for a swap but yet someone has returned the Stillen to GTM to get a swap is wrong. That is huge and really says alot about a company. I think people need to know this. So it was posted before so what we post somthing once then never post about it again? That would keep database space down but kill the form. This issue should and will continue to be brought up in any relivent threrad that askes about stillen. Not only does this affect their SC but every area of their business. So when people are asking about their exhaust or brakes or lips or whatever all of this showes how they treat there paying customers. So end of the Day who would you want your money to got to? A company that will not stand behind their products weather it be exhaust SC or LED's, and are willing to throw a customer under a bus to the tune of over $3000, Or someone else?
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:04 AM   #2522 (permalink)
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I have to agree. If we sweep this under the rug, Stillen will not change its ways. Its kinda of like the whole groupon thing where they did the add on tibet. If people complained just one day then they would have kept up their tactics of using the ad. Groupon even said that there is nothing wrong with their add. Enough people complained long enough that they finally decided to take it down. That's what is needed complaining long enough that they acknowledge that something is wrong and fix it.
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Sorry Frank i got to disagree with most of your comments. This thread is exactly the place to keep rehashing why the Stillen SC is not the SC of choise. I believe that when the thread is bumped that the facts should be brought to light. And I in no way see how stating that so far no one has returned a GTM SC to Stillen for a swap but yet someone has returned the Stillen to GTM to get a swap is wrong. That is huge and really says alot about a company. I think people need to know this. So it was posted before so what we post somthing once then never post about it again? That would keep database space down but kill the form. This issue should and will continue to be brought up in any relivent threrad that askes about stillen. Not only does this affect their SC but every area of their business. So when people are asking about their exhaust or brakes or lips or whatever all of this showes how they treat there paying customers. So end of the Day who would you want your money to got to? A company that will not stand behind their products weather it be exhaust SC or LED's, and are willing to throw a customer under a bus to the tune of over $3000, Or someone else?
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I have to agree. If we sweep this under the rug, Stillen will not change its ways. Its kinda of like the whole groupon thing where they did the add on tibet. If people complained just one day then they would have kept up their tactics of using the ad. Groupon even said that there is nothing wrong with their add. Enough people complained long enough that they finally decided to take it down. That's what is needed complaining long enough that they acknowledge that something is wrong and fix it.
this was never swept under the rug. Like I said there was numerous threads about this.
Another Stillen SC thread!
There is a reason why after a while threads like this get locked and that is Op said what he had to say because it loses there meaning and people just start talking useless shiz. A simple search will find all this, not like AK deleted this stuff
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Maybe this thread should just be locked, And another thread should be made for only those that installed the kit.
Good idea. As someone who has casually trolled this thread off and on to see how the development is gong. It's been very difficult to understand where Stillen is now with this product because of the disgruntled commentary (justifiably or not).

Makes more sense to split the threads: one focused on the product and technology, and one focused on support/service experiences. As someone who might consider this SC in the future, I would like to be aware of both. My guess is if this were the case maybe Stillen would be more willing to address issues on each thread separately.
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wow, this thread got long!!

I see a lot of people saying GTM is the way to go instead, but you know what, nearly EVERY person lately whom I have talked to that had major work done at GTM will never go back. They lag, take forever, want endless amounts of money (up front usually too), etc etc. I know 2 good friends of mine with very high quality builds (magazine / sema cars) that pulled their cars out of GTM's shop. I'm not a fan of GTM, hence why I never took my old Z to them.

Stillen on the other hand IMO has gone downhill on their customer service front. All they want is to release a kit that is "good enough" get money for the kits, and then continue with R and D, then when they produce fixes for issues or upgrades to common problems, they want to charge EACH customer with these somewhat faulty kits more money to upgrade, so there is no standing behind ANYthing...

Both kits have promise, great promise, but the companies that are making them are what holds the potential back.

and in the end, I stand behind my thought that the VQ is a terrible motor to FI. Out of being in the scene for 7 years, I know of not a single person who has not ran into major issues with "bolt on FI" kits, and consequently full builds as well.

stay NA, the VQ will love you for it. There is no such thing as a truly reliable VQ that is FI IMO...
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Your responses are silly. Are you really claiming that shops regularly deliver big projects on time (any shop).. Come one now.
Who cares, all this kind of work is custom engineering. Its not an assembly line. You want performance, fine you will require added maintenance. You want to have a perfect install, fine it will require extra time. Which projects like these have many variables to them, so who care if it takes twice as long to get a good deliverable in the end. You people and think these companies can wave their magic wand and make everything perfect. This is a ridge-line business and we are lucky we have the few tuners and manufactures of these types of goods and services. Stillen on the other hand has gone about everything the wrong way.
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Who cares, all this kind of work is custom engineering. Its not an assembly line. You want performance, fine you will require added maintenance. You want to have a perfect install, fine it will require extra time. Which projects like these have many variables to them, so who care if it takes twice as long to get a good deliverable in the end. You people and think these companies can wave their magic wand and make everything perfect. This is a ridge-line business and we are lucky we have the few tuners and manufactures of these types of goods and services. Stillen on the other hand has gone about everything the wrong way.
You still don't get it. I guess there aren't many project managers here. If something takes more time than estimated it means they estimated poorly or, and this happens all the time, they estimated effort hours correctly but not duration. When a shop is juggling multiple big projects a problem with one can slip all the others. This is just reality and is all about time/project management.

What you are saying is the shop estimated it will take X hours to do their NORMAL, HIGH QUALITY WORK, but then it takes X + Y to "make it perfect"..?

I'm a little surprised people are arguing this with me, this is common sense stuff. It isn't a knock against any shop, it is just a reality of the industry. When people realize that and set appropriate expectations, they will not be disappointed.
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Stillen on the other hand IMO has gone downhill on their customer service front. All they want is to release a kit that is "good enough" get money for the kits, and then continue with R and D, then when they produce fixes for issues or upgrades to common problems, they want to charge EACH customer with these somewhat faulty kits more money to upgrade, so there is no standing behind ANYthing...
Yep, that pretty much sums it up. At least, that's what i experienced.
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You still don't get it. I guess there aren't many project managers here. If something takes more time than estimated it means they estimated poorly or, and this happens all the time, they estimated effort hours correctly but not duration. When a shop is juggling multiple big projects a problem with one can slip all the others. This is just reality and is all about time/project management.

What you are saying is the shop estimated it will take X hours to do their NORMAL, HIGH QUALITY WORK, but then it takes X + Y to "make it perfect"..?

I'm a little surprised people are arguing this with me, this is common sense stuff. It isn't a knock against any shop, it is just a reality of the industry. When people realize that and set appropriate expectations, they will not be disappointed.
I actually agree with you 100%
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Do you have to pull the front clip to change the oil in the supercharger? Is it easy to do?
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Do you have to pull the front clip to change the oil in the supercharger? Is it easy to do?
nope, very easy to do. jack up your car and set it on jack stands and chaulk your wheels then remove your undertray and look for the blower's oil drain line located on the drivers side. i forgot what's the size for the nut but you'll need 2 wrenches to get it open. refill is the left brass if i remember correctly. the right brass on top of the blower is the dip stick. hope this helps
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is anything from stillen carb approve yet
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is anything from stillen carb approve yet
As far as I know, there are no CARB approved SC kits from anyone yet.
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what about stillen intake are they carb approve yet
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Updated the original post with CARB information. Here is the link to the new thread discussing CARB approval:

STILLEN Obtains 50-State Legal Status For 370Z/G37 Supercharger
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