STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!

Lug · 09-08-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718

I know this is dumb! Ever thought about removing your HFCs and try using the stock cats?

It would cost him even more money but it would be a great data point in trying to answer the question of whether a too free flowing exhaust negatively effects the actual numbers when SCing.

weiboy718 · 09-08-2010, 05:38 PM

Alright guys, I'm gonna take my car to the same place where tomavone got his car dyno at tomorrow. Let's see what's the differences is. note, I only have CBE.

Lug · 09-08-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718

Alright guys, I'm gonna take my car to the same place where tomavone got his car dyno at tomorrow. Let's see what's the differences is. note, I only have CBE.

More data = better decisions. FTW!

DannyGT · 09-08-2010, 06:40 PM

But wait, what was the delta??? Sorry for being lazy but did you do a baseline run? At the end of the day, thats all that matters. Maybe your car stock was 250-260whp? Or maybe Stillen sucks?

i kiddd i kidddd...

tomnavone · 09-08-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718

I know this is dumb! Ever thought about removing your HFCs and try using the stock cats?

phimosis has headers and hfc and his hp is 421 and hes is running 93 octane still shy of the 438 advertised by stillen. He also has the orignal 9lb pully. Rcz is also running hfc and headers.
Got the car back today and runs way better. Has lots of power down low but sucks up high. Just doesnt seem worth the money to gain 74 hp. I think my car is going to make a trip down to stillen to either get the tune down or remove the supercharger and get my money back. Im not looking for a dyno queen but numbers close to stillens would be nice since thats what i paid for. By the way i know your reading this stillen. Do the right thing and fix it its been over two months and over a dozen calls to u by me and my shop

tomnavone · 09-08-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyGT

But wait, what was the delta??? Sorry for being lazy but did you do a baseline run? At the end of the day, thats all that matters. Maybe your car stock was 250-260whp? Or maybe Stillen sucks?

i kiddd i kidddd...

my baseline was 274. With Exhaust hfc and intake 302. with supercharger, exhaust and hfc 376. Stillens baseline was 276. Stillens numbers with exhaust and supercharger 437. My torque with the supercharger is 299 Stillens is 343. Both done on a dyno jet same temps same elevation.

RCZ · 09-08-2010, 07:54 PM

You guys are getting STD numbers right? Just checking...might be why you're off by so much.

NYBladeZ · 09-08-2010, 07:55 PM

Jeez man that really sucks and I commend your patience up to this point. DannyGT, your up bro, if you can make good power with an exhaust and a bigger compressor with the GTM kit it'd go a long with for those looking to get an S/C.

Zsteve · 09-08-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

You guys are getting STD numbers right? Just checking...might be why you're off by so much.

How is a dyno giving them STDs?

RCZ · 09-08-2010, 10:07 PM

Zing!

No, but really. There's a big difference.

JB-370z · 09-08-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tomnavone

phimosis has headers and hfc and his hp is 421 and hes is running 93 octane still shy of the 438 advertised by stillen. He also has the orignal 9lb pully. Rcz is also running hfc and headers.
Got the car back today and runs way better. Has lots of power down low but sucks up high. Just doesnt seem worth the money to gain 74 hp. I think my car is going to make a trip down to stillen to either get the tune down or remove the supercharger and get my money back. Im not looking for a dyno queen but numbers close to stillens would be nice since thats what i paid for. By the way i know your reading this stillen. Do the right thing and fix it its been over two months and over a dozen calls to u by me and my shop

Than go TT and control how much power you put down with a boost controller and be done with it

Sorry to hear about all the upsets guys

RCZ has no problems why so many others?

LateralG'z · 09-08-2010, 11:12 PM

I am not having any problems either but I definitely think each car should get a custom tune not a canned tune. We are taking a NA to FI and each car should be tuned for minor variances

tomnavone · 09-08-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

You guys are getting STD numbers right? Just checking...might be why you're off by so much.

My numbers are sae, which most consider the most Accuate and widely accepted form of measurement. From my understanding std reads higher by 2 - 4%. The diference between sae and std = less than 10 hp difference in this case.

RCZ · 09-09-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tomnavone

My numbers are sae, which most consider the most Accuate and widely accepted form of measurement. From my understanding std reads higher by 2 - 4%. The diference between sae and std = less than 10 hp difference in this case.

Umm, the difference can be higher than 2-4%. BOTH Stillen and GTM advertised STD numbers, not SAE. In my case there was around a 20hp difference between SAE and STD.

Some of you guys that are right around 400 or a little over SAE will end up around 420, which isnt as unacceptably far away from Stillen advertised results as it seemed before...

tomnavone · 09-09-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Umm, the difference can be higher than 2-4%. BOTH Stillen and GTM advertised STD numbers, not SAE. In my case there was around a 20hp difference between SAE and STD.

Some of you guys that are right around 400 or a little over SAE will end up around 420, which isnt as unacceptably far away from Stillen advertised results as it seemed before...

Umm, how can the differnece be higher than 2-4%? What math are u using? Stillen math?

09-08-2010, 06:40 PM	#1669 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	But wait, what was the delta??? Sorry for being lazy but did you do a baseline run? At the end of the day, thats all that matters. Maybe your car stock was 250-260whp? Or maybe Stillen sucks? i kiddd i kidddd... __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

09-08-2010, 07:55 PM	#1673 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	Jeez man that really sucks and I commend your patience up to this point. DannyGT, your up bro, if you can make good power with an exhaust and a bigger compressor with the GTM kit it'd go a long with for those looking to get an S/C. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

09-08-2010, 11:12 PM	#1677 (permalink)
LateralG'z Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 876 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 17	I am not having any problems either but I definitely think each car should get a custom tune not a canned tune. We are taking a NA to FI and each car should be tuned for minor variances __________________ 2010 Mag Black, 6MT,

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