STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!

Phimosis · 07-17-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

Stillen boiys are just upset and the 50 ft-lbs of tq GTM makes over them at 2 PSI less.

Nope, I'm not upset what the Stillen kit is compared to GTM. If GTM didn't offer a supercharger for the 370z, I would feel exactly the same way: I feel like I did not receive the product that was advertised to me. If I did get the product that was advertised to me, I would be satisfied. This has nothing to do with GTM.

Can we get a moderator to clean this thread so we can keep on topic? It doesn't bother me that everyone's joking around here, it's just that the message gets diluted.

Thanks,

Phim

AK370Z · 07-17-2010, 10:11 PM

Please keep this thread on topic. I don't want to see any personal attacks in this thread. If you have a problem with a fellow forum member(s), please exchange emails and do it outside the forum.

Thanks.

stormcrow · 07-18-2010, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phimosis

Nope, I'm not upset what the Stillen kit is compared to GTM. If GTM didn't offer a supercharger for the 370z, I would feel exactly the same way: I feel like I did not receive the product that was advertised to me. If I did get the product that was advertised to me, I would be satisfied. This has nothing to do with GTM.

Can we get a moderator to clean this thread so we can keep on topic? It doesn't bother me that everyone's joking around here, it's just that the message gets diluted.

Thanks,

Phim

Even though I was hated for it, this is the reason why I was so verbose in this and other threads. The truth will always come to light...and I now have a small sense of vindication.

MMC Racing · 07-19-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stormcrow

Even though I was hated for it, this is the reason why I was so verbose in this and other threads. The truth will always come to light...and I now have a small sense of vindication.

our hero

m4a1mustang · 07-19-2010, 08:59 AM

OK, so it's Monday. I guess Stillen opens for business in what... 3 hours?

tomnavone · 07-19-2010, 11:11 AM

Ill be on the dyno in a few hours if stillen has worked out all the kinks

Kastley85891 · 07-19-2010, 11:19 AM

Lets see what gives......

Phimosis · 07-19-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stormcrow

Even though I was hated for it, this is the reason why I was so verbose in this and other threads. The truth will always come to light...and I now have a small sense of vindication.

Stormcrow: yes you are vindicated for being skeptical. I am a skeptic as well. I took issue with you previously because some of your posts were inflammatory and were perceived as attacks on certain people. You've been much nicer lately though. :-)

I'm hoping that Stillen will address the tuning issues and that the end product will be safe and will have an output that is in line with what they advertised, so that they are vindicated.

It does seem unusual that they only shipped a few kits with the original pulley, then very early on, pulled the kit, added a new pulley and a new tune....presumabley a tune they have tested......but then have still kept the old press release for all of their advertising material and no new press release or dyno figures have been offered.

Zsteve · 07-19-2010, 03:21 PM

So Im wondering if the tune and pulley needed updating because their IC isnt cooling as well as it should and they are losing power due to heat soak? That is about the only reason I would choose GTM right now, I know the FMIC works.

shumby · 07-19-2010, 03:57 PM

^^^ one other reason should be the more TQ thast the GTM kit has over the stillen

Chris@FsP · 07-19-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

So Im wondering if the tune and pulley needed updating because their IC isnt cooling as well as it should and they are losing power due to heat soak? That is about the only reason I would choose GTM right now, I know the FMIC works.

That is not the reason; I will let Kyle explain if he chooses to.

Phimosis · 07-19-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

So Im wondering if the tune and pulley needed updating because their IC isnt cooling as well as it should and they are losing power due to heat soak? That is about the only reason I would choose GTM right now, I know the FMIC works.

If heat soak was the issue, they would have known that early in the development cycle and adjusted pulley size accordingly. Stillen's answer was that "customers' cars have been seeing higher than acceptable boost levels."

I'm thinking that if they have been testing this kit on their developpment cars for over a year and all of them show 8psi of boost on the dyno and on the road, then they sell ten kits and customer #3 says, "hey, I'm getting 10 psi of boost, but making 25 lb/ft of torque less than what you guys advertised," then Stillen would say, "please take your car back to your installer and have them check everything out, something must be installed wrong." Not, "please do not run your car with the pulley we included, it makes more boost than we advertised. Please install this other pulley instead." They were able to trouble shoot this issue and deliver a fix before all of their pre-orders were satisfied. That indicates they knew about this issue very early on. In my particular case, I was an early pre-order (3/16/10). I wasn't informed that I would be getting a resized pulley until after the order was paid in full, the car was in the shop and the install was nearly complete (late june/early July).

Zsteve · 07-19-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

^^^ one other reason should be the more TQ thast the GTM kit has over the stillen

That 2 as I feel thats what we really lack stock.

Zsteve · 07-19-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

If heat soak was the issue, they would have known that early in the development cycle and adjusted pulley size accordingly. Stillen's answer was that "customers' cars have been seeing higher than acceptable boost levels."

I'm thinking that if they have been testing this kit on their developpment cars for over a year and all of them show 8psi of boost on the dyno and on the road, then they sell ten kits and customer #3 says, "hey, I'm getting 10 psi of boost, but making 25 lb/ft of torque less than what you guys advertised," then Stillen would say, "please take your car back to your installer and have them check everything out, something must be installed wrong." Not, "please do not run your car with the pulley we included, it makes more boost than we advertised. Please install this other pulley instead." They were able to trouble shoot this issue and deliver a fix before all of their pre-orders were satisfied. That indicates they knew about this issue very early on. In my particular case, I was an early pre-order (3/16/10). I wasn't informed that I would be getting a resized pulley until after the order was paid in full, the car was in the shop and the install was nearly complete (late june/early July).

well I guess you can say that atleast you didnt go ut and blow up the car, but I would agree they knew and were just buying some extra time to get the new pulley fabed.

weiboy718 · 07-19-2010, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

If heat soak was the issue, they would have known that early in the development cycle and adjusted pulley size accordingly. Stillen's answer was that "customers' cars have been seeing higher than acceptable boost levels."

I'm thinking that if they have been testing this kit on their developpment cars for over a year and all of them show 8psi of boost on the dyno and on the road, then they sell ten kits and customer #3 says, "hey, I'm getting 10 psi of boost, but making 25 lb/ft of torque less than what you guys advertised," then Stillen would say, "please take your car back to your installer and have them check everything out, something must be installed wrong." Not, "please do not run your car with the pulley we included, it makes more boost than we advertised. Please install this other pulley instead." They were able to trouble shoot this issue and deliver a fix before all of their pre-orders were satisfied. That indicates they knew about this issue very early on. In my particular case, I was an early pre-order (3/16/10). I wasn't informed that I would be getting a resized pulley until after the order was paid in full, the car was in the shop and the install was nearly complete (late june/early July).

May I ask if that was your car at Stillens facility on Friday the 9th of this month? There's a car there looks just like your avatar.

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Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	So Im wondering if the tune and pulley needed updating because their IC isnt cooling as well as it should and they are losing power due to heat soak? That is about the only reason I would choose GTM right now, I know the FMIC works. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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