STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!

Mike · 10-12-2010, 08:32 PM

well, the fuel starvation has nothing to do with the supercharger. I get it sometimes at two dots low with R compound tires on the car, and it stumbles for a bit before coming back.

Buzzlitonian · 10-12-2010, 10:30 PM

Whew!!!!! First I have to say thanks to Kyle at Stillen. Yes, the Z was ready!!
I picked it up this afternoon from Uprev and was estatic on my Test drive.
Richard rode shotgun as he directed me to a fine strip of asphalt to test my wares. Oh, man guys! Just stick with this Kit. It is a beast. I still even chickened out a little and did not floor the pedal completely. I glanced at the speedo just once and was very rapidly accelerating past 110 when I broke off. Just Fantastic! It was very noticeable how much more powerful the engine seemed when driving. The sport suspension and Tires handled all that just nice. I kept the VDC on the whole time today.
Actually afraid to think what will happen if I don't.

After all this time, I have to say this was definitely worth it.

Drove it down to my home town and had many opportunities at stop signs to let the Z show me its stuff (which before the Z would go limp). No problem accelerating past 3rd with some nice punchiness to it. Actually had one panic stop in Austin traffic to demonstrate any deceleration problems....none. At cruising speed of a nice 70 mph the engine pulled along nicely up and down the rolling hills.

Apparently there is some sort of Error in the Nissan coding for the ECU directly relating to the Mass Air Flow sensors. With the Supercharger attached, the settings were severely being challenged sending trouble codes to shut down or disable how the engine works like "no air flow!", "sorry not running today!". So, the Uprev geniuses built the Tune around those codes to basically "ignore" them. Then they figured out the rest from there.
Odds of this happening are rare. But was showing up in my car anyway.

My Z will accept the next finalized tune (coming soon) in which my Nissan Dealer will be able to do that with no problems. They shouldn't have any.

Also, it is still important to have whoever installs the Kit make sure they completely follow the directions. I can even understand that pipes meant to be straight must be attached straight with no deviations for smooth air flow.
There was some minor adjustments made to my kit to help improve things.

So, if anyone has any questions on what the charger is doing I will do my best to describe any details. It has my full attention now when driving, well that and eyes on the road of course.

So, yes the Mission is finally accomplished!

A nice touch was that Uprev had my car professionally detailed after my Test drive. Poor guy worked on the front end Bugs for a while, trying to get them off. Been baked on for at least 4 months. It looked great and felt great to be in it.

Thanks to everyone at Uprev (Rich and Jared) and Stillen (Chuck, Sam and Kyle).

Now...to go hunting for some 'stang and 'ro.

ThoriumHotdog · 10-12-2010, 10:39 PM

Congrats. Now...

pics or it didn't happen!

cotizi · 10-12-2010, 11:53 PM

cool stuff. Richard and Jared are good guys. They will tell you how it is and help you out if they can. Glad your car came back together.

RCZ · 10-13-2010, 12:45 AM

I hope for everyone's sake that they have the problem fixed. Congrats Buzz!

Know what would suck..if you returned the kit days before they found the fix...

tomnavone · 10-13-2010, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ

Know what would suck..if you returned the kit days before they found the fix...

I'm willing to take the gamble that stillen will have numerous more failed tunes and get no where near the advertised numbers. Remember this is a custom tune. Tuned by uprev and has nothing to do with the stillen locked tune.

Buzz plz post dyno results

#452-LE · 10-13-2010, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Man this S/C has turned into such a disappointment. From the day this was announced I was excited with the idea of having a well designed supercharger kit with close to 500hp. But after hearing/reading about the problems people are having, it's really pushed me toward the GTM twin-turbo kit which alot of 370z owners seem happy with.

I fully agree and made the leap to Stage 2 TT's with GTM/ Sam. The final pieces should be here today, and soon, the build will begin.

MMC Racing · 10-13-2010, 09:16 AM

Got my fall bonus yesterday - would have covered the entire kit.. Ah, what could have been.

shumby · 10-13-2010, 09:51 AM

well it will cover a GTM kit. with some to spare

RCZ · 10-13-2010, 11:16 AM

I would also be interested in seeing dyno charts of Buzz's car. I asked for it from the GTM kit, its only fair that some proof come from here too.

Phimosis · 10-13-2010, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Man this S/C has turned into such a disappointment. From the day this was announced I was excited with the idea of having a well designed supercharger kit with close to 500hp. But after hearing/reading about the problems people are having, it's really pushed me toward the GTM twin-turbo kit which alot of 370z owners seem happy with.

Based on the timing of your comment, I'm assuming it was in response to my post. If it is, you've misunderstood what I'm saying. The 370z has a problem with fuel starvation. It's in the gas tank design and can be fixed with an aftermarket surge tank. I was posting because fuel starvation is worse when you're making 500 hp rather than 333 hp. That, and making the 500 hp with 9 psi of boost will for sure give you detonation when the mixture goes lean because the fuel pump can't deliver enough fuel.

My point was that I got fuel starvation at 6/16 dots on the fuel gauge. Granted, I was pulling 1g lat acceleration on an off camber turn, but it still happened.

If you get a twin turbo setup that makes even more power, this problem will be even worse.

I'm perfectly happy with my stillen supercher. I'm getting 329 lb/ft torque and 422 whp. It runs perfectly and is scary fast. Downshift from 6 to 3rd at 70 mph on the freeway and it starts spinning. From a 5 mph roll in first, open the throttle and it starts to spin around 3500 rpm, then just bounces off the rev limiter as the boost continues to build. Even with full coil over suspension that's set harsh enough that I get headaches on freeway trips, the suspension feels limp and mushy with way too much squat when I'm on the throttle in 1st-3rd gears. Basically, the engine is overpowering the suspension - and even motor mounts or driveline. When I come off the power to shift, I can feel the drivetrain "unwind". It's creepy and I worry that somethings's going to break. It never felt like that before the supercharger.

Likewise, I can't imagine owning a 370 without FI. I used to think the 370 was gutless even with full bolt ons and was getting spanked by stock camaros. Not anymore. The 370 is now a truely fast car.

As far as shying away from Stillen is concerned, they are the only company that has multiple forum members that are making over 400 whp in a 370z and they are the only company that has multiple forum members that have working cars and have posted dyno results. So for all the hoopla about how bad Stillen is and how good the competition is, Stillen is far and away the points leader for the 2010 season.

tomnavone · 10-13-2010, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phimosis

Based on the timing of your comment, I'm assuming it was in response to my post. If it is, you've misunderstood what I'm saying. The 370z has a problem with fuel starvation. It's in the gas tank design and can be fixed with an aftermarket surge tank. I was posting because fuel starvation is worse when you're making 500 hp rather than 333 hp. That, and making the 500 hp with 9 psi of boost will for sure give you detonation when the mixture goes lean because the fuel pump can't deliver enough fuel.

My point was that I got fuel starvation at 6/16 dots on the fuel gauge. Granted, I was pulling 1g lat acceleration on an off camber turn, bit it still happened.

If you get a twin turbo setup that makes even more power, this problem will be even worse.

I'm perfectly happy with my stillen supercher. I'm getting 329 lb/ft torque and 422 whp. It runs perfectly and is scary fast. Downshift from 6 to 3rd at 70 mph on the freeway and it starts spinning. From a 5 mph roll in first, open the throttle and it starts to spin around 3500 rpm, then just bounces off the rev limiter as the boost continues to build. Even with full coil over suspension that's set harsh enough that I get headaches on freeway trips, the suspension feels limp and mushy with way too much squat when I'm on the throttle in 1st-3rd gears. Basically, the engine is overpowering the suspension - and even motor mounts or driveline. When I come off the power to shift, I can feel the deivetrain "unwind". It's creepy and I worry that somethings's going to break. It never felt like that before the supercharger.

Likewise, I can't imagine owning a 370 without FI. I used to think the 370 was gutless even with full bolt ons and was getting spanked by stock camaros. Not anymore. The 370 is now a truely fast car.

As far as shying away from Stillen is concerned, they are the only company that has multiple forum members that are making over 400 whp in a 370z and they are the only company that has multiple forum members that have working cars and have posted dyno results. So for all the hoopla about how bad Stillen is and how good the competition is, Stillen is far and away the points leader for the 2010 season.

You are running a custom tune correct? Not the stillen locked carb tune?

Phimosis · 10-13-2010, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomnavone

You are running a custom tune correct? Not the stillen locked carb tune?

Stillen doesn't have a carb tune. They may in the future, but not currently. If they submitted rev1 to Carb and it get's approved, there no way anyone is going to run it because even though it worked well on their car, it was with the 9psi pulley and that tune wasn't working on a lot of other people's ECU's. Once things settle down and everyone is reporting that R8 or R9 or R whatever is working on every car, then they will submit it for CARB approval. At that time, yes, I'll run the CARB tune.

RCZ · 10-13-2010, 06:41 PM

Like I said before... anyone could tune the car, including stillen. The issue is not in the tuners or the physical kit. Every kit that has a custom tune is working great. Its all a matter of fixing the damn issue that their "custom uprev system" is causing as Buzz said. Once that is fixed (if its not fixed already) then we should be seeing 400hp cars popping up everywhere.

tomnavone · 10-13-2010, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ

Like I said before... anyone could tune the car, including stillen. The issue is not in the tuners or the physical kit. Every kit that has a custom tune is working great. Its all a matter of fixing the damn issue that their "custom uprev system" is causing as Buzz said. Once that is fixed (if its not fixed already) then we should be seeing 400hp cars popping up everywhere.

But will it and can it be fixed with the locked uprev program? Why waste all of our time and release this kit and tunes before it was really tested on any cars? The kit was marketed to be a turn key kit. Not buy the turn key kit and wait four months of failed tunes and then go get a custom tune. Stillen cant figure out how to tune it so they send the customer to uprev for a custom tune and poof their goes your warranty. Stillens off the hook. Thats not fair for the 80% of the people that bought this kit as a turn key kit and got tired of waiting for stillen to fix the tuning.

10-12-2010, 08:32 PM	#2056 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	well, the fuel starvation has nothing to do with the supercharger. I get it sometimes at two dots low with R compound tires on the car, and it stumbles for a bit before coming back. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

10-12-2010, 10:30 PM	#2057 (permalink)
Buzzlitonian Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tx Posts: 22 Drives: 2009 Z Rep Power: 16	Very Happy Stillen S/C Owner Whew!!!!! First I have to say thanks to Kyle at Stillen. Yes, the Z was ready!! I picked it up this afternoon from Uprev and was estatic on my Test drive. Richard rode shotgun as he directed me to a fine strip of asphalt to test my wares. Oh, man guys! Just stick with this Kit. It is a beast. I still even chickened out a little and did not floor the pedal completely. I glanced at the speedo just once and was very rapidly accelerating past 110 when I broke off. Just Fantastic! It was very noticeable how much more powerful the engine seemed when driving. The sport suspension and Tires handled all that just nice. I kept the VDC on the whole time today. Actually afraid to think what will happen if I don't. After all this time, I have to say this was definitely worth it. Drove it down to my home town and had many opportunities at stop signs to let the Z show me its stuff (which before the Z would go limp). No problem accelerating past 3rd with some nice punchiness to it. Actually had one panic stop in Austin traffic to demonstrate any deceleration problems....none. At cruising speed of a nice 70 mph the engine pulled along nicely up and down the rolling hills. Apparently there is some sort of Error in the Nissan coding for the ECU directly relating to the Mass Air Flow sensors. With the Supercharger attached, the settings were severely being challenged sending trouble codes to shut down or disable how the engine works like "no air flow!", "sorry not running today!". So, the Uprev geniuses built the Tune around those codes to basically "ignore" them. Then they figured out the rest from there. Odds of this happening are rare. But was showing up in my car anyway. My Z will accept the next finalized tune (coming soon) in which my Nissan Dealer will be able to do that with no problems. They shouldn't have any. Also, it is still important to have whoever installs the Kit make sure they completely follow the directions. I can even understand that pipes meant to be straight must be attached straight with no deviations for smooth air flow. There was some minor adjustments made to my kit to help improve things. So, if anyone has any questions on what the charger is doing I will do my best to describe any details. It has my full attention now when driving, well that and eyes on the road of course. So, yes the Mission is finally accomplished! A nice touch was that Uprev had my car professionally detailed after my Test drive. Poor guy worked on the front end Bugs for a while, trying to get them off. Been baked on for at least 4 months. It looked great and felt great to be in it. Thanks to everyone at Uprev (Rich and Jared) and Stillen (Chuck, Sam and Kyle). Now...to go hunting for some 'stang and 'ro.

10-12-2010, 11:53 PM	#2059 (permalink)
cotizi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 391 Drives: 2012 VW GTI 6MT Rep Power: 217	cool stuff. Richard and Jared are good guys. They will tell you how it is and help you out if they can. Glad your car came back together. __________________ Past - 2009 Silver 6MT Sport 370Z Current - 2012 VW GTI 6-Speed

10-13-2010, 12:45 AM	#2060 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	I hope for everyone's sake that they have the problem fixed. Congrats Buzz! Know what would suck..if you returned the kit days before they found the fix... Last edited by RCZ; 10-13-2010 at 12:48 AM.

10-13-2010, 09:16 AM	#2063 (permalink)
MMC Racing Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 661 Drives: 2015 GT-R Rep Power: 17	Got my fall bonus yesterday - would have covered the entire kit.. Ah, what could have been. __________________ 2014 F150 Raptor, 2014 Mazda 3, 2015 Nissan GT-R

10-12-2010, 10:39 PM	#2058 (permalink)
ThoriumHotdog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: TX Posts: 1,104 Drives: Turbo CRX si Rep Power: 17	Congrats. Now... pics or it didn't happen!

10-13-2010, 09:51 AM	#2064 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	well it will cover a GTM kit. with some to spare __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

10-13-2010, 11:16 AM	#2065 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	I would also be interested in seeing dyno charts of Buzz's car. I asked for it from the GTM kit, its only fair that some proof come from here too.

10-13-2010, 06:41 PM	#2069 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Like I said before... anyone could tune the car, including stillen. The issue is not in the tuners or the physical kit. Every kit that has a custom tune is working great. Its all a matter of fixing the damn issue that their "custom uprev system" is causing as Buzz said. Once that is fixed (if its not fixed already) then we should be seeing 400hp cars popping up everywhere.

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