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Red370 · 03-12-2010, 10:03 PM

I wanna see a shootout with both kits, Steve from Stillen against Sam at GTM, Buttonwillow, lets get it done.

RCZ · 03-12-2010, 10:05 PM

^ That wouldn't be fair.

LiquidZ · 03-12-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I wanna see a shootout with both kits, Steve from Stillen against Sam at GTM, Buttonwillow, lets get it done.

Given Steve's racing heritage, Sam might as well be riding a big wheel.

The more I think about it, that would be hilarious.

Red370 · 03-12-2010, 10:06 PM

Ok, Steve Millens supercharged Z against GTM and Mike B

LaSeeno · 03-12-2010, 10:06 PM

Not much per stage at all.

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

FYI, here are the prices for some of GTMs stages: GTM Motorsports*::*FORCED INDUCTION*::*GTM G37 SUPERCHARGER KIT

Zsteve · 03-12-2010, 10:55 PM

Lets see if I can get this back on track,

if a CBE makes about 15 whp and TQ then I would think the GTM numbers should jump that much thru out the rpms. A question I have is from the 4-7K rpm range which will make me faster tq or hp? And Im still trying to see what dyno GTM used? Oh and why 7.9 psi? does .1 really mean anything when it comes to fi?

rcm2525 · 03-13-2010, 02:39 AM

I don't get it. Unless these two kits are tested on the exact same 370 on the exact same dyno on the exact same day (temp, humidity) then these debates on minor performance differences are meaningless. Then unless the kits are track reviewed by the same drivers the same holds true.
So I would just go for the one you like most for what ever reason or wait until there can be a true shootout review, which I suspect will be many months if ever. JMO

AndyZ · 03-13-2010, 06:02 AM

Well for me i will take GTM. Just because of my one simple reason, engine bay of GTM SC kit looks much stock looking setup. Comparing to stillens beutiful intake manifold. I just prefer simple looking sleeper status setup.
Noobies wont even know theres some extra ponies under the hood
(targeted to some of my ricer status friend)

OMG37 · 03-13-2010, 10:09 AM

I've been searching but can't find any posts that talk about this, can you put a FSTB over the Stillen kit? Do the 370Z's come with a stock one? Just the NISMO kit?

MMC Racing · 03-13-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rcm2525

I don't get it. Unless these two kits are tested on the exact same 370 on the exact same dyno on the exact same day (temp, humidity) then these debates on minor performance differences are meaningless. Then unless the kits are track reviewed by the same drivers the same holds true.
So I would just go for the one you like most for what ever reason or wait until there can be a true shootout review, which I suspect will be many months if ever. JMO

What are you asking for is impossible. I would be more than satisfied to see 2 370z's, same trans, baseline and final on same dyno, dyno SAE correction. Then compare the % increase. The cars would baseline on the same day and then come back for final results on the same day. With both companies in So-Cal, this is actually doable. Pick a 3rd party dyno for baseline and final numbers.

LiquidZ · 03-13-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG37

I've been searching but can't find any posts that talk about this, can you put a FSTB over the Stillen kit? Do the 370Z's come with a stock one? Just the NISMO kit?

The FTSB will clear.

de_dust · 03-13-2010, 03:01 PM

has anybody talked about condensation on the stillen's kit? please let me know why it wouldn't be a cause of concern... thanks...

Zsteve · 03-13-2010, 03:39 PM

Im waiting for intake temps from both kits during hard driving to see if they are doing a good job of keeping the temps down.

right now Im on the GTM side as the numbers are very close, and I think GTM will actually be a bit better with CBE, and I know the FMIC is proven already, as Stillen still needs to prove their cooler keeps temps down. I know they said 100 degrees cooler, but cooler than what? A 400 degree engine bay? Also $800 is a good portion of the install cost. Plus I will stay stage 1 and not upgrade.

de_dust · 03-13-2010, 03:55 PM

there u have it... zsteve with the GTM and red370 with the stillen...u guys should set up dynos at the same time and date...

Zsteve · 03-13-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by de_dust

there u have it... zsteve with the GTM and red370 with the stillen...u guys should set up dynos at the same time and date...

that would be cool but he will moving in a few weeks.

03-12-2010, 10:03 PM	#106 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	I wanna see a shootout with both kits, Steve from Stillen against Sam at GTM, Buttonwillow, lets get it done. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-12-2010, 10:06 PM	#109 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	Ok, Steve Millens supercharged Z against GTM and Mike B __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-12-2010, 10:55 PM	#111 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Lets see if I can get this back on track, if a CBE makes about 15 whp and TQ then I would think the GTM numbers should jump that much thru out the rpms. A question I have is from the 4-7K rpm range which will make me faster tq or hp? And Im still trying to see what dyno GTM used? Oh and why 7.9 psi? does .1 really mean anything when it comes to fi? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

03-13-2010, 02:39 AM	#112 (permalink)
rcm2525 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mountains of VA Posts: 133 Drives: 370z NISMO PG #0260 Rep Power: 16	I don't get it. Unless these two kits are tested on the exact same 370 on the exact same dyno on the exact same day (temp, humidity) then these debates on minor performance differences are meaningless. Then unless the kits are track reviewed by the same drivers the same holds true. So I would just go for the one you like most for what ever reason or wait until there can be a true shootout review, which I suspect will be many months if ever. JMO __________________ ____ "To live outside the law you must be honest" - B.D.

03-13-2010, 06:02 AM	#113 (permalink)
AndyZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Santa clara Age: 35 Posts: 334 Drives: Ford Escort "100HP" Rep Power: 15	Well for me i will take GTM. Just because of my one simple reason, engine bay of GTM SC kit looks much stock looking setup. Comparing to stillens beutiful intake manifold. I just prefer simple looking sleeper status setup. Noobies wont even know theres some extra ponies under the hood (targeted to some of my ricer status friend) __________________ NOR CAL TT Z34 Next - Built Engine / V-tec?

03-12-2010, 10:05 PM	#107 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	^ That wouldn't be fair.

03-13-2010, 10:09 AM	#114 (permalink)
OMG37 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 119 Drives: 08 G37S 6MT Rep Power: 15	I've been searching but can't find any posts that talk about this, can you put a FSTB over the Stillen kit? Do the 370Z's come with a stock one? Just the NISMO kit?

03-13-2010, 03:01 PM	#117 (permalink)
de_dust Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: baltimore Posts: 92 Drives: 370z black on black Rep Power: 276	has anybody talked about condensation on the stillen's kit? please let me know why it wouldn't be a cause of concern... thanks...

03-13-2010, 03:39 PM	#118 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Im waiting for intake temps from both kits during hard driving to see if they are doing a good job of keeping the temps down. right now Im on the GTM side as the numbers are very close, and I think GTM will actually be a bit better with CBE, and I know the FMIC is proven already, as Stillen still needs to prove their cooler keeps temps down. I know they said 100 degrees cooler, but cooler than what? A 400 degree engine bay? Also $800 is a good portion of the install cost. Plus I will stay stage 1 and not upgrade. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

03-13-2010, 03:55 PM	#119 (permalink)
de_dust Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: baltimore Posts: 92 Drives: 370z black on black Rep Power: 276	there u have it... zsteve with the GTM and red370 with the stillen...u guys should set up dynos at the same time and date...