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Zsteve · 03-07-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

What if one has more top-end power (about +10 whp) but the other one has more mid-range (about +20 whp)? What do you guys value more?

mid

Red370 · 03-07-2010, 08:55 PM

i'm more about the low to mid range, all about that 0-60 baby.

Zsteve · 03-07-2010, 09:35 PM

I zoomed a neon srt4 with a turbo upgrade I think, and I had the start put he caught up quickly, so I want the mid (50-90 mph), our low isnt too bad.

Red370 · 03-07-2010, 09:44 PM

where did this happen and did you at least win?

Zsteve · 03-07-2010, 10:36 PM

He caught me and I had to turn right and he was going straight but he would have pulled on me more, thats why I think he had a bigger turbo in it cuz his low end wasnt there but the high end was. I dont think a stock one would pull that hard in the uppers as they only do 0 60 in 5.6 secs so he had some mods.

Red370 · 03-07-2010, 11:37 PM

you probably should have stayed in a lower gear longer, thats probably the reason why.

Buddy Revell · 03-08-2010, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

I haven't had the opportunity to try it out yet. I've got it downloaded though just need to find some test to mess around with it. Actually after I downloaded I realized that I've lost dynolicious from my phone. I'm trying to figure out what I did wrong there.

Logworks keeps telling me that I don't have the right connector though, what's that all about?

Kyle, you're supposed to just be able to click on the "Dyno" button and get to this screen to run 0-60 tests for your car using the iPhone's accelerometer. The "connector" warning is probably only relevant if you're using it with the Wi-fi OBD-II interface that company sells.

Zsteve · 03-08-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

you probably should have stayed in a lower gear longer, thats probably the reason why.

I did and didnt shift untill high rpms, He just put on a bigger turbo that pulls in the higher side, I had him easy in the low end.

fstrnldr · 03-08-2010, 10:24 AM

Even stock the SRT-4's had no bottom end just because they don't get traction. When they were new i worked on a few, and they really woke up with just a boost controller on the stock turbo. Still felt like i was driving my sisters car with a turbo on it, but quick none the less.

Zsteve · 03-08-2010, 12:40 PM

So what would be some of the things we should compare between the two? So far Ive got HP, TQ, low or mid gain, stealth looking, price, psi, weight. Any other areas we should look at when comparing the two?

Zsteve · 03-10-2010, 12:33 AM

I guess we now also know that the GTM will have to change compressors to upgrade power but its stage one will give more low end tq. And the Stillen wont need to change compressors as it starts with a bigger one but will lose low end tq for future upgradeability. So 2 kits with different option scenerios, thats good so each person can decide what they want and buy according.

Buddy Revell · 03-10-2010, 09:16 AM

I wonder how much boost the VQ37 can take from a centrifugal SC reliably on stock internals without using race gas?

fstrnldr · 03-10-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I guess we now also know that the GTM will have to change compressors to upgrade power but its stage one will give more low end tq. And the Stillen wont need to change compressors as it starts with a bigger one but will lose low end tq for future upgradeability. So 2 kits with different option scenerios, thats good so each person can decide what they want and buy according.

what you did leave out is that if you really wanted too you could order the GTM with the larger compressor and run it at lower boost level until you wanted to "upgrade" later. As i said in the Stillen thread though why would someone give up usable power now for the chance of a cheap upgrade later. Just do it right the first time, and maybe you won't be always chasing the next upgrade.

Zsteve · 03-10-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

I wonder how much boost the VQ37 can take from a centrifugal SC reliably on stock internals without using race gas?

Im curious too, I was kinda wondering why 6 psi or 8 psi and not 10 psi etc.. Id love to have a carb legal at the highest, safe PSI possible, but we dont know what is really safe for this car.

Zsteve · 03-10-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fstrnldr

what you did leave out is that if you really wanted too you could order the GTM with the larger compressor and run it at lower boost level until you wanted to "upgrade" later. As i said in the Stillen thread though why would someone give up usable power now for the chance of a cheap upgrade later. Just do it right the first time, and maybe you won't be always chasing the next upgrade.

Good point, and Im with you there, if I buy it under its capabilities then I feel kinda cheated on power. But as one othr guy pointed out if you know for sure you will upgrade and you need money for the kit and internals then I could see starting under its efficiency and buying as you go. But that wont be me, Stage 1 all the way.

03-07-2010, 08:55 PM	#47 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	i'm more about the low to mid range, all about that 0-60 baby. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-07-2010, 09:35 PM	#48 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	I zoomed a neon srt4 with a turbo upgrade I think, and I had the start put he caught up quickly, so I want the mid (50-90 mph), our low isnt too bad. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

03-07-2010, 09:44 PM	#49 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	where did this happen and did you at least win? __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-07-2010, 10:36 PM	#50 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	He caught me and I had to turn right and he was going straight but he would have pulled on me more, thats why I think he had a bigger turbo in it cuz his low end wasnt there but the high end was. I dont think a stock one would pull that hard in the uppers as they only do 0 60 in 5.6 secs so he had some mods. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

03-07-2010, 11:37 PM	#51 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	you probably should have stayed in a lower gear longer, thats probably the reason why. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-08-2010, 10:24 AM	#54 (permalink)
fstrnldr Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 170 Drives: Canyonero Rep Power: 16	Even stock the SRT-4's had no bottom end just because they don't get traction. When they were new i worked on a few, and they really woke up with just a boost controller on the stock turbo. Still felt like i was driving my sisters car with a turbo on it, but quick none the less.

03-08-2010, 12:40 PM	#55 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	So what would be some of the things we should compare between the two? So far Ive got HP, TQ, low or mid gain, stealth looking, price, psi, weight. Any other areas we should look at when comparing the two? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

03-10-2010, 12:33 AM	#56 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	I guess we now also know that the GTM will have to change compressors to upgrade power but its stage one will give more low end tq. And the Stillen wont need to change compressors as it starts with a bigger one but will lose low end tq for future upgradeability. So 2 kits with different option scenerios, thats good so each person can decide what they want and buy according. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

03-10-2010, 09:16 AM	#57 (permalink)
Buddy Revell Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 303 Drives: 08 Infiniti G37 Rep Power: 16	I wonder how much boost the VQ37 can take from a centrifugal SC reliably on stock internals without using race gas? __________________ '08 IP G37S/GTM Supercharger/20" DPE SP-5 Wheels/ARK GRIP Exhaust