Man the Army needs to hurry up and pay me my money they owe me for stop loss so I can get in on this. For all the guys in TX, Ill buy the kit but I will need donations of money from all ya so we can make this happen. LOL.

Millage is related to how aggressive you drive you car, so for example if you are the type that like bouncing off the rev limiter all the time you MPG will be effected greatly. On the other hand if you can stay off the boost your gas millage will be the same or better. below is you factory ecu air fuel ratio target map as you can see the 14.7 cell is where the ecu will target that to get you the best MGP so it does not mater whether you have a twin turbo or a super charger kit the ecu does not care , You will still get a good MGP providing you drive the car decent most of the time and also providing your car is tuned correctly. So for a daily driver car you will be just fine .

Sam

Try reading the G37 forums as well. I will be the first G37 to have this kit, and i'm in Fort Worth.

GTM Performance Engineering G37 SUPERCHARGER KIT PRESS RELEASE - MyG37

Pfht, but that is on a G. :stirthepot:
Once it is in and running, let us all know, I do not mind a nice drive.

I for one will not be getting better gas mileage. With 400whp under my foot, chances are I wont be getting more than 10mpg...on a good day.

The last two videos you are drooling over in the first post...are my car. :)

I will have the car back in Texas in about a month. There is still a few weeks of testing left (on either car). I typically come out to Dallas Cars and Coffee, regular G/Z meets in the DFW area, and I plan to start showing the car in some of the bigger events, so I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunity to meet up and meet everyone and get a chance to show off the car.

Consequently, I'm from San Antonio so I make trips down to visit family and friends every now and then.

When do you get your car back?
We have a Dallas meet up this weekend, car show, beer, hockey but another once you get your car would work. :D

With such Great Pricing you are making it hard to save my money!! Damn You GTM Damn You :)



DAN

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so you shipped your car there and back? How much if you dont mind me asking?

You shouldn't be driving in 6" of water. In fact, I can't imagine driving in 6" of water, and I live in Oklahoma where we get *significant* amount of water dumped at one time, and with a high-clay soil, it doesn't soak in, it makes rivers and such.

Still, 6" of water is half way to the hub!

Not very uncommon in the area where I live. I know there is a corner I take almost every day where a puddle forms in torrential rain that is EASILY 5+ Inches every time.

This was Miami beach a few months back after a day of rain.

http://www.miamibeach411.com/news/in...ooded-streets/

Obviously that was an extreme case, but it happens here often and sometimes I have no option but to go over it or completely stop traffic.

^^^ well it you would even think about driving your stock car through that you need to stop driving and take the bus.

Point is that its a concern for me since that happens, to a lesser extent, more often than it should around here. With the way it rains here in the summer you can get caught by surprise and have something deep enough form in a matter of minutes.

Can we stop talking about my personal situation and rain for a sec and get back to GTM's supercharger? I feel like this may not apply to some people and I'm derailing this thread.

$200/hr is the standard shop rate?

To the MPG question, when we put the Vortech kit on our 350z, we lost about 2 MPG in normal 60 mile per day commuting.. This was the standard 1/4 side streets and 3/4 stop and go highway traffic.

Our shop rate is 129 per hour here is the brake down .

-Super charger install time 11 hours

-Fuel system 3 hours

-Dyno time befor and after 2 hours

That is a total of 16 hours. hope this make sense

Sam

sam still waiting to hear from you. if the lead time is 30-60 days i got to get on this.

Pm sent.

Sam

:excited: PM sent back awaiting your email:excited:

Hope I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this chart. Can someone explain how to interpret this?

Sold I want it. Pm me sam when you have the chance.

Sam

Great work.

Will this fit Right Hand Drive cars to you think? Are there going to be any major obstacles in regards to fitment? Im sure there will be alot of ppl in the UK/Auz/japan who would be interested in this

regards

Jamie

We have dealt with that in our turbo kit so we know all bout it, so yes Our supercharger kit will fit on a right hand drive car

Sam

Engine rpm right hand column
Injector latency/ engine load / etc etc (which ever software you are using ) - top row
Cross ref fuel targets - down and right 14:7.1 = 1 Lambda (leaner) 11:5.1 = richer.
ECU uses front o2 sensor in closed loop to adjust fuel trims to make target, generally ECU's will have switch over points from closed loop to open loop , usually open loop will be the meatier fueled/higher load areas of the map.
Generally you will run leaner fuel, obviously for idle, partial throttle, cruise loads etc, then have a smooth transition in high load areas to make best power safely, tuners usually throw a little more fuel in at higher rpm on higher load cells to help with knock retention.



Basic but should help.

I beleive the Z fueling algorithm is more of a CL system for all, from my experience it seems to hit target pretty well.

Heres an edit from my turbo charged E85 running vehicles fuel map, this one uses rpm and direct engine load for cell target fueling, hope this makes things clearer, this ECU did have a deddicated switch point from CL to OL fueling.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...st/e85fuel.jpg

Heres is stock rom in COBB format for the Z, this is Lambda based not AFR , same theory though.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...COBBtables.jpg


Back on track - Sam that install rate and timeline is very resonable, seems like a real sound product here. good job

To make the process a little easier we added the supercharge kit to our website with the giving the option to chose between black or blue couplers, powder coating the piping and Thermo coating on the intercooler

Here is a link

GTM Motorsports*::*FORCED INDUCTION*::*Supercharger Kits*::*GTM 370Z SUPERCHARGER KIT

and some pics of the piping and the intercooler coating


Sam

mmm black powdercoated piping is what I want =].

As a gauge to compare against, what time do you quote to install a full Vortech kit on a 350z?

Agreed. The black piping looks sick.:tup:

What's the benefit of putting a thermal coating on your intercooler? I thought the point of thermal coating was to keep the heat in, hence why people put them on turbo components and headers. Wouldn't that negate the purpose of having an intercooler (heat exchanger)?

Is this a different type of coating?

I won't be able to meet for a while. My car will be at GTM for at least 2 more months. Ain't R&D fun? :)

Seriously though, once the car is back here, I plan on coming out to Dallas Cars and Coffee, might even try to have a GTM sponsored event and fly Sam out to my place for the weekend and throw a big G/Z meet where the celebrity host is Sam!

It is a different type of coating that improve heat dissipation and makes the set up stealthier so you get the look and the performance . the coating you are talking about for the turbo components and headers is the ceramic coating witch will keep the heat in .

Sam

Gotcha, that makes more sense.

Talk about a sleeper, doesnt even look like theres an intercooler there at all, thats my goal.

black piping looks pretty good!

for 175 is not bad AT ALL!

With the votech kit and having to hack the engine harness to install the split second ems box, we would charge 18 hours + the dyno time or any custom tuning .

Sam

Cost of shipping the car to California from Fort Worth will run you anywhere from $300-$400. I can't discuss any pricing for my car specifically. Sorry. :(

what company are you using? i shipped my girlfriends car from the bay to LA and cost x3 your quote

We arranged the transport, if you are thinking transporting the car, send me a pm and i will get you a price .

Sam