Yes, lets try to keep the press release clean...Do that on the other thread.

Anyway - SAM, thanks for taking the time to speak with me today. I know I had alot of questions, so thanks for answering them.

Cant wait to see the rest of the updates!

LMAO, I love how much respect you have for GTM's press release that you are posting giant pictures of cats on it.

Yeah, complaining incessantly about a technical discussion about turbochargers (which definitely relates to how centrifugal sc's work), then instigating trouble and posting nonsense pics on these threads. Ridiculous.

About that....

so how do i bhuy one who will install it for me in new york and i have automatic any extras

might need a valve body up grade and a tranny cooler. but you should wait to hear what SAM has to say. Myself I am going to get an oil and tranny cooler. plus the valve body upgrade. might not be needed but nice to have. really depends on what you are planing to do with the car.

I'm really confused at how an oil cooler setup is supposed to hook up with the filter relocation of this kit. Anyone have any ideas?

I will answer all these questions shortly, just need to catch up with some dyno work .

Sam

RCZ..



1) i checked the web site and the foot pring for the 3 remain the same.



as for the rest. well Sam will get to that once he got some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's

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Hey Sam

Great work! Any ideas whether this will fit RHD cars?

cheers
Jamie

Holy crap Sam! $5k!!!!!!!

Like someone else said, GTM hit it out of the park on this one!

You just swayed me and will most certainly be earning my FI dollars! I have several questions as well...

1) Does the $5k intro price apply to all trims or is that just Stage 1?

2) Price for GTM inhouse install?

3) Why 2 intake filters when the SC only has one inlet?

4) Same questions as others regarding oil filter location/clearance?

5) An oil cooler is a must, where would one fit into this setup?

3. 2 maf's?

5. Oil cooler will go behind the intercooler. Apparently there is tons of room still behind there. Or you can custom bracket it off the left side I suppose.

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3. No because that comes in to play after the supercharger just before the intake manifold. Makes no sense to meter the air before the supercharger compresses it and before it goes through the intercooler.


5. If you look at the install photos the black oil color is off to the drivers side of the car.

Are you sure that's not just a relocated power steering cooler? That's aweful small if its an engine oil cooler.

your right I just looked at the pictures and there are no oil lines connected to it. but it looks to be power steering lines. My bad!

:tiphat:

I assumed that black cooler was the "supercharger cooler" listed in parts lineup? With that being said, I thought the Rotrex was a self contained unit with no need for external oil cooling?

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And that's for a reason, impressive job Sam! I knew you wouldn't let our name down haha

It is still a self contained (internally lubricated) supercharger. Due to the nature of its operation, the traction fluid picks up a lot of heat due to friction forces. The oil cooler is standard on any Rotrex kit to keep the lubricant's temperatures in check.

Don't worry, it is still an internally lubricated kit. No oil pan tapping needed.

Yeah that makes sense...so its a rotrex oil cooler basically:tup:

Still curious why the need for dual intake tube...

what needs to be done to get in on the 5k intro price?(down payment, full payment, and when)

very interested in this

feel free to pm when you get the chance sam

also, what price difference do you see between stages? (still 5k?)i would be interested in stage 2-3

Just send me the kit and I'll be happy to look it all over and answer everyone's questions :)

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+1 how do I get in on the intro pricing? Do I call, send a PM? Thanks!

I think the oil lines are for the oil filter relocation kit... The PS lines are for the PS cooler ... And I believe the Rotrex is in fact an enclosed system.... as pictured it has its own formulated oil used only in the SC.... I doubt it would be added to your engines oil :)

Sam, very impressive... It sounds amazing on video and im sure in person it would be even more beast...... Looks great as well.... great job...

I know for a fact from my experience with a rotrex sc set up on my 2002 m3 that the 81 trim is good for 500whp. I am really interested to see what the 91 trim can do !! I would think the 91 trim can make way more than the stock motor can handle.

The rotrex unit is self oiling and has a resivoir that you keep leveled off like power steering fluid and has it's own oil cooler !
Nice job GTM !!! I'm excited about this !

on a side note...its nice to see the main components of the S/C nice and low to the ground...much better for center of gravity. The last place you want more weight is up high in the front of this already nose heavy car. Curious to hear Sam report the total weight of the kit as well.

It was madness here in vancouver, i was working there for the game and all the other games for the olympics..lol

You guys dont need to worry about what will happen with a oil cooler sandwich plate!!

You dont need one!! You would simply plumb a front mounted oil cooler inline into either one of the 2 large lines going to the oil filter relocation.

So, just remove one of those 2 lines, and send it to a cooler, and the cooler output back where the line originally went.

so once again, no need for a sandwich!

Sandwich plate = thermostate
you don't want to use a thermostate :confused:

Yeah but if you do it that way then the oil will be circulated through the oil cooler constantly and im most cases keeping the oil cooler then it should be. Most sandwich plates have a built in thermostat to redirect oil only when its temp gets above 180F.

if you want a thermostat... then add a thermostat! no problem guys.

Remote Oil Thermostat - -10AN Mocal Remote Oil Thermostat

im sure GTM will put together an oil cooler kit to go along with this SC kit anyway... but you can see here thats its just a matter of 2 hoses, a cooler, and that thermostat if you want one.

Thanks for the post. I never seen an inline thermostat like that, looks great.

You beat me to it, i've used that style before on other cars with great success. The other thing i'm sure a lot of people are forgetting is you should be able to mount that oil filter anywhere you like. I'm sure GTM can offer other solutions as far as the oil lines, or you could just pick up some AN fittings and move it anywhere you want. in doing that you could even run a much larger than factory filter if you felt it necessary.

As far as the filters, i thought somewhere in the other thread it was said that it was done for clearance reasons. Two smaller pipes fit and one large one didn't. Rather than just bottle neck down, they split it in two.

Great job GTM :tup: great price!! I'm really interested in this kit, I'd like to see some more testing as too how it stacks up as a daily driver kit. I have a lot of the same concerns as others, but mainly drivability, over-heating issues, and reliability. Also, what's your estimate on the time frame for Carb approval?

That is still pretty good. 8K out the door and knowing that you are now officially boosted, priceless.

Can anyone who works at GTM confirm this?

i am sure Sam will be on here soon enough. It is not even 8:00am in cali yet. And the man needs to sleep

installer in ny anyone?

Thank you

The difference between all stages will be within few hundreds, I definitely would not recommend a 3" exhaust, we need to have some back pressure in the system and the same goes for headers.

In the next few days we will start testing with different exhaust components to see what is going to best combination for the system.

Sam