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Chris@FsP 05-12-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 534768)
Nowing my luck and the local talent here for installs I would get one of those installs we had a month or so back in here (Im sure we all remember those threads) and would be running down the street and my water pump breaks or something like that. So gotta go with fewer moving parts. I think if the car came stock with the air to water and was completely covered under warrenty and all it might be good but I got to go with the tried and true FMIC and for other reasons too.

We would love to install it for you :) Give us a call.

Zsteve 05-12-2010 02:14 PM

GTM, Stillen just threw out some stats and facts about air to water over air to air.:stirthepot:

Zsteve 05-12-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FailsafePerf (Post 534770)
We would love to install it for you :) Give us a call.

you would come down here to install it? At no extra charge? lol

shumby 05-12-2010 02:16 PM

^^^ lol i was just about to post that. lol

Xan 05-12-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 534768)
so belt wrap is no issue with either kit, both put out about same numbers give or take a few, same price range, but I still like the fewer moving parts for reliability so I will be going GTM when I do this. IM sure the other kit is a reliable one too but Im just more comfortable with the GTM kit right now. Nowing my luck and the local talent here for installs I would get one of those installs we had a month or so back in here (Im sure we all remember those threads) and would be running down the street and my water pump breaks or something like that. So gotta go with fewer moving parts. I think if the car came stock with the air to water and was completely covered under warrenty and all it might be good but I got to go with the tried and true FMIC and for other reasons too.

The kit should be reasonable easy to install and I'm sure it will be a blast to drive!

Like I said before, I'm not here to sway anybody in any direction.
Just sharing what I know and putting things in perspective to help people make an informed decission they feel good about. :tup:

Zsteve 05-12-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 534773)
^^^ lol i was just about to post that. lol

great minds think alike.

Chris@FsP 05-12-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 534772)
you would come down here to install it? At no extra charge? lol

Hmm, that will most likely not be possible, lol. If I didn't have a business to run though, I really would! Working on cars = FUN.

Zsteve 05-12-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 534778)
The kit should be reasonable easy to install and I'm sure it will be a blast to drive!

Like I said before, I'm not here to sway anybody in any direction.
Just sharing what I know and putting things in perspective to help people make an informed decission they feel good about. :tup:

No doubt, both kits should sell pretty good, especially after a few installs from members here. Having options is good for us as we can get things at better prices and hopefully better quality. Cuz its really all about the consumer, us.

sofa_king 05-12-2010 02:21 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember seeing that stillen offered a 3 year warranty if anything went wrong with the sc or engine.

Zsteve 05-12-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sofa_king (Post 534785)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember seeing that stillen offered a 3 year warranty if anything went wrong with the sc or engine.


Im not sure, they will warranty the whole engine and kit even if they think the problem wasnt related to the kit? Lets something went wrong but it wasnt really the kit that casued it, would they still fix it? And should I say the install shop will still fix it? Cuz more than likely Nissan wont touch it now and it would be a hell of a fight with them to prove or disprove the cause.

I guess same question for GTM too on this.

RCZ 05-12-2010 03:23 PM

I think Stillen does have an engine warranty on their base kit just as long as nothing is altered from their original design / tuning.

SAM@GTM 05-12-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 534771)
GTM, Stillen just threw out some stats and facts about air to water over air to air.:stirthepot:

Listing all the oem manufactures that used water to air setup is great but how about some real info about the stillen set up like radiator,size,location,capacity of the system, how about some pics of all that. Why is it left out .Notice how much info we have shared so far. I mean they are about to send their kits out next week and they have not showed a single pic of their system yet , i wonder why ???

I choose air to air any day over liquid to air, it is simple effective, reliable and proven unless we were designing a root style supercharger kit ;).

Sam

Kastley85891 05-12-2010 04:42 PM

Id like to see some data comparing A-A W-A cooling, but that is for a different thread I guess.
If people are really comcerned they can always stick a decent meth kit in there to really ensure an efficiant charge temp.

A SC / TT set up will rock regardless, Id love to have one and will take what ever cooler comes.. ;-)

OMG37 05-12-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sofa_king (Post 534785)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember seeing that stillen offered a 3 year warranty if anything went wrong with the sc or engine.

I don't think they just give you a 3 year warranty on their system. They have arranged a contract/deal with an outside company to offer a warranty on their system is my understanding.

There is always a warranty on the supercharger through the manufacturer though that would be "included" with the kit...that's no different then GTM's supercharger though.

I think you might want to find an actual statement from Stillen (i.e. Josh or Kyle) before you go believing you will get a 3 year warranty included on the system as a whole.

RCZ 05-12-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 534898)
Listing all the oem manufactures that used water to air setup is great but how about some real info about the stillen set up like radiator,size,location,capacity of the system, how about some pics of all that. Why is it left out .Notice how much info we have shared so far. I mean they are about to send their kits out next week and they have not showed a single pic of their system yet , i wonder why ???

Sam

What are you trying to say Sam?

Zsteve 05-12-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 535174)
What are you trying to say Sam?

They fraid to show they chit!

Legz 05-12-2010 07:36 PM

Thought everything would be ready to go 2 weeks ago... :s

DannyGT 05-12-2010 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 534898)

I choose air to air any day over liquid to air, it is simple effective, reliable and proven unless we were designing a root style supercharger kit ;).

Sam

Aint that the F'n truth !!!! ROFL...I wonder if they even realized that in their post!

NYBladeZ 05-12-2010 07:54 PM

mmmm roots type supercharger

NYBladeZ 05-12-2010 07:57 PM

Once both kits go out and we start getting some real life testimonies, that's when we'll see who comes out on top. Personally I think Sam has got it down, I really like how GTM designed the supercharger around the VQ motor instead of augmenting the VQ motor to the SC. In the end reliability, simplicity of install, and hp/tq figures will rule.

Kastley85891 05-12-2010 08:06 PM

^bingo - too much BS from nut huggers just spoils decent threads anyways

Each there own and all that..

The more offerings the better, def some talented engineering out there, all the better for the end user.

jmlenz 05-12-2010 10:19 PM

I cant wait for the supercharger wars to be settled on a track!! Perfect situation = same driver, same day, same track, 2 different 370s with same supporting mods but different superchargers. Hopefully some magazine will do this!

Sam >>> would you pony up the shop supercharged Z for a comparo like this??

fstrnldr 05-13-2010 01:16 AM

All this talk of the IC efficiency in both SC threads, and unless i missed it nobody has mentioned the fact that the air temp starts with the superchargers efficiency. The different designs of the units as well as if the unit is operating in its peak range, will determine the base temperature the intercooler has to start with.

Zsteve 05-13-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fstrnldr (Post 535609)
All this talk of the IC efficiency in both SC threads, and unless i missed it nobody has mentioned the fact that the air temp starts with the superchargers efficiency. The different designs of the units as well as if the unit is operating in its peak range, will determine the base temperature the intercooler has to start with.

true that, which is why Id like to see temps before and after IC from both kits at different levels of driving, ie. 5K rpms and WOT.

biggersNISMO 05-13-2010 08:14 PM

Sam, thanks for being transparent through the whole process. I tip my hat sir.

shumby 05-14-2010 10:58 PM

Sam I am coming to see you soon. June first cannot come soon enough.

KaienZ34 05-15-2010 06:43 AM

So who is first to have this system insalled ??

CGMobile370Z 05-15-2010 10:06 AM

Sam, I live in Miami and it is not unusual for us to have some areas accumulate up to 8 inches of water in a day from tropical rain storms. Is there anyway to raise the air intakes up higher in the void behind the bumper? The upper one may be fine my concern is the lower one, we get tropical down pours at the drop of a hat and I would hate to ingest a bunch of water

fstrnldr 05-15-2010 10:26 AM

if the top one is fine, then the bottom one won't be a problem. Assuming you run into a situation where you absolutely have to drive through standing water (this has far more things to consider than just your air intake, but i won't get into that here) unless you submerge both filters 100% you won't suck in enough water to hydro lock an engine. Just like if you capped off one filter the engine wouldn't die, it would just breath through the other filter.

SAM@GTM 05-15-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CGMobile370Z (Post 538344)
Sam, I live in Miami and it is not unusual for us to have some areas accumulate up to 8 inches of water in a day from tropical rain storms. Is there anyway to raise the air intakes up higher in the void behind the bumper? The upper one may be fine my concern is the lower one, we get tropical down pours at the drop of a hat and I would hate to ingest a bunch of water

Razing the intake wont be possible but you could run only one filter (the upper one ) If you think you are going to find you self in such extreme conditions.

Sam

KaienZ34 05-15-2010 12:36 PM

This question may have already been answered, but do the tubes that go to throttle body pass in the same place as the S. gen 3 ? Just wondering if I could make use of the holes in the support core that's there already for the intake. As I'm really looking at the GTM stage 2 S.C. Kit, and thinking i maybe able to use the current holes... Sorry if this was already asked and or answered. Thanks again for all your time.

MMC Racing 05-16-2010 09:38 AM

This is obviously the best supercharger kit for the 370z and G37

biggersNISMO 05-16-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 539193)
This is obviously the best supercharger kit for the 370z and G37


lol i see what you did lol :ughdance:

Chris@FsP 05-16-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 539193)
This is obviously the best supercharger kit for the 370z and G37

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/...7509c4.jpg?v=0

rbosacco 05-17-2010 08:24 PM

sam, its time for these to ship. come on man.

G Fo12ce 05-21-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlenz (Post 535419)
I cant wait for the supercharger wars to be settled on a track!! Perfect situation = same driver, same day, same track, 2 different 370s with same supporting mods but different superchargers. Hopefully some magazine will do this!

Sam >>> would you pony up the shop supercharged Z for a comparo like this??

Start telling your favorite magazine you want to see it, maybe they will arrange it. I'm sure both companies would be more willing if they were getting free press to thier direct market out of it.

OMG37 05-22-2010 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 538241)
So who is first to have this system insalled ??

Technically the first Z is the GTM shop car...and mine is the first G37.

shumby 05-22-2010 09:47 AM

Mine will be the first G37 in canada

CGMobile370Z 05-22-2010 09:56 AM

Sam, I plan on installing an oil cooler during the S/C kit install. Will the GTM oil cooler kit work with the oil filter relocation kit? If not do you have any suggestions on how to go about installing an oil cooler inconjunction with the oil filter relocation kit, I want to have a thermostat in the system?

Q8y_drifter 05-22-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CGMobile370Z (Post 546852)
Sam, I plan on installing an oil cooler during the S/C kit install. Will the GTM oil cooler kit work with the oil filter relocation kit? If not do you have any suggestions on how to go about installing an oil cooler inconjunction with the oil filter relocation kit, I want to have a thermostat in the system?

same question...


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