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Assuming both the Stillen and GTM SC will be of good quality and performance, whos should cost less? The GTM didnt fab a new intake manifold or intercooler and is

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Old 02-01-2010, 11:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Assuming both the Stillen and GTM SC will be of good quality and performance, whos should cost less? The GTM didnt fab a new intake manifold or intercooler and is using tried and tested paths so I would think that is a savings there. The Stillen did fab new things and Im sure that will add to the cost. Also which will proably have the better low end TQ and better avg gains thru all the rpms? This not meant to be a bashing war Im just trying to get a good reliable SC at its cheapest price. And I am looking for gains thru all rpms and not just max gains as I will be a street driver only, maybe a trip or two to the 1/4 mile just for fun now that Im in TX and they have a couple here.
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I think the prices will be equivalent or damn near it between the kits. Stillen cast a manifold Gtm cast the intake tube and modified the compressor housing on the blower. The Rotrex is a more expensive blower than the vortech, but stillen's tuning method an sensor placement will cost more. fuel system modifications we don't know about but they will probably be the same. Gtm has a lot more bracketry than stillen and moves around most of the front side of the motor.
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I think the prices will be equivalent or damn near it between the kits. Stillen cast a manifold Gtm cast the intake tube and modified the compressor housing on the blower. The Rotrex is a more expensive blower than the vortech, but stillen's tuning method an sensor placement will cost more. fuel system modifications we don't know about but they will probably be the same. Gtm has a lot more bracketry than stillen and moves around most of the front side of the motor.
Well I hope they offer a warrenty for the engine then as they are moving things.
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Well I hope they offer a warrenty for the engine then as they are moving things.
Most companies do not offer engine warranties with bolt-on SCs and turbo kits. None that I know of offer them on non-CARB legal race kits that most here seem to be interested in.
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I bet they will both come in between 6-7k. Neither company is known for being the value or low price leader. That is why I'm a little sad that Vortech did not produce a kit since they have a history of bang for the buck.

People will say you get what you pay for and that is true as long as a name has some intrinsic value. If quality is similar, then it comes down to cost versus performance. Personally, I'd give up 10hp if the kit was $1500 less one way or another. Peak performance is only one factor in my decision making. If price and quality is the same on both kits, then bring on the dyno graphs and real world driving impressions.
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I bet they will both come in between 6-7k. Neither company is known for being the value or low price leader. That is why I'm a little sad that Vortech did not produce a kit since they have a history of bang for the buck.
Only problem here is that Vortech kits are cheaper because they are usually more simple in design that either of the kits in question here. Both companies have gone to some pretty big extremes (in comparison to the previous vortech kits) to make a kit happen on this engine/chassis combo.
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Hoping the group buy comes between $5-7, otherwise it could be a looong group buy
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I would be willing to bet The Stillen setup will be about 1k to 1500 more than the GTM setup. Casting a pipe is no where near the amount of casting an Intake with a water/air intercooler inside of it. Brackets and pullies are cheap as well.
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once the systems come out every company will come out with a pulley, I believe NST already has lighter OEM pullies that they say go well with SC's no way to verify that yet
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Well the Army owes me some 5K or so for the stop loss they did on me, so Im waiting for the pricing. If I cant get the SC then It looks like some HFCs and a LSD and gear change are in the running.

Oh and oil cooler for the TX hot weather.
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Well the Army owes me some 5K or so for the stop loss they did on me, so Im waiting for the pricing. If I cant get the SC then It looks like some HFCs and a LSD and gear change are in the running.

Oh and oil cooler for the TX hot weather.
Right on Steve, wait til summer hits here, you'll see those oil temps over 240 daily.
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Right on Steve, wait til summer hits here, you'll see those oil temps over 240 daily.
Where did you get your HFCs installed and how much did they charge?
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Well the Army owes me some 5K or so for the stop loss they did on me, so Im waiting for the pricing. If I cant get the SC then It looks like some HFCs and a LSD and gear change are in the running.

Oh and oil cooler for the TX hot weather.
+1 on the oil cooler for TX hot weather - I've already installed mine, just waiting for the "spring" to come.

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+1 on the oil cooler for TX hot weather - I've already installed mine, just waiting for the "spring" to come.

Kevin
which one did you get? Any issues with it so far? What temps are you running right now with it being on the cool side for weather?
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I have a question for everyone that wants a SC kit. Why would u want a kit that takes away engine power to make power? Is it because it's cheaper than a TT kit? And if you could get a TT kit for the price of a SC kit would you purchase it?
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