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anyone interested in a group buy for FI (TT or SC)?

1) B*, 6months *depending on cost 2) TT 3) TUNER, leaning toward AAM I am not a big fan of loosing the front bumper / crash bar. I am sure

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Old 01-30-2010, 02:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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1) B*, 6months *depending on cost
2) TT
3) TUNER, leaning toward AAM

I am not a big fan of loosing the front bumper / crash bar. I am sure I will already have to part with the chassis damper up front. Plus AAM is in my home state, so I wouldn't mind leaving my car with them if I am "away". If you are able to get this done, I would need to get it done by the end of the year. I am sure that I will be in a place similar to my current location in 2011 (if things keep going like they have for the past 4 years). Thanks for doing this.

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1)A -- now
2)TT
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1) A-1-4 months
2) FI (open to options... love the turbo's but not the 15K) (single turbo option?)
3) TUNER (none around me, INDIANA, I'd be willing to drive 10+ hours to drop my car at a reliable shop.... only problem is getting work done after I get back to Indiana... don't know of reliable tuners)
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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(open to options... love the turbo's but not the 15K) (single turbo option?)
Having a single turbo option would attract some attention, it would be very hard since there's very little space down there to fit all the piping. I mean look at how much R&D was put just to come up with the SC kit, imagine having to y-pipe the exhaust headers then send the charge back into a y-piped intake.. Man there's gonna be so much piping down there it's going to look like an oil refinery lol
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:01 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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A turbo mounted in the rear would be so laggy to start with as you'd lose some of the exhaust gasses' flow energy (momentum) which is what powers the turbine. Then the charge would need to be sent back.. all this long piping is a waste of flow energy
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Lag is relative, if that same turbo you experienced was mounted close to the engine with short equal length manifold it would be much quicker in terms of response.
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If rear mounted kits were as good or better than conventionally mounted turbo kits we wouldn't see AAM and the like sticking with convention. I don't see any benefit to running that much more piping to the rear of the car. My guess is if cost is that much of a factor to where you'd give up a "proper" TT setup, a supercharger is probably the best option for you.
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another good point... I mean, if they are definitely the way to go as far as price is concerned, so there must be a good reason why more people don't use them/big companies don't promote them.
Yep. I believe that ideally you want the turbos mounted as close to the collector as possible. It just makes sense when you think about it.

Anyways, for my purposes, if I go FI it will be an SC kit. I am comfortable tackling the install myself and don't really want to complicate my life (and financial situation) with a TT kit... because if I went TT I would be ordering the works.

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YouTube - STS Rear Mount Turbo Lag Demonstration

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I haven't ridden in many aftermarket turbo cars but it doesn't look like much lag too me... ??

Sorry for kinda-jackin the thread.. hope this isn't too far off topic.
Just because it kicks in at 3k rpm doesn't mean it isn't laggy, again, I said lag was relative. I don't know which turbo he's rocking but if that thing was closer to the engine it would surely spool quicker, simple laws of physics..
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Just because it kicks in at 3k rpm doesn't mean it isn't laggy, again, I said lag was relative. I don't know which turbo he's rocking but if that thing was closer to the engine it would surely spool quicker, simple laws of physics..
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for most of us, price is the main factor/determinant...... plus, the actual durability has not been tested yet, only thus been speculated...........

hope everything works out........... both for us and tuners......

also, ppl lets just stick to the main focus of this thread..........

i do not mind the discussion about the placement of turbo, but i do not think that is relevant to this particular thread....

i am eager to see the results from AAM and GTM.....

well, in terms of the installation, i am more partial to AAM for they are close by; however, GTM states that they could work out with the shipping costs.............so we ll just have to see............

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LOL........... as long as the subject is pertinent, i guess it's all too subjective, i (rather we) do not mind........ just feel free, but do not go over-board............. *^^*

i, too, am waiting for the dyno results..... *^^*
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Might want consider a GB on installs as well. We are here to help on the Eastern half of the USA.
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