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Originally Posted by Elmo370z Rusty is an engineer who worked in the automotive industry. You make the VQ work with a vr38 you will be a instant millionaire. We will

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Old 07-27-2022, 06:25 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Rusty is an engineer who worked in the automotive industry. You make the VQ work with a vr38 you will be a instant millionaire. We will all be waiting for your claims to be reality.
That's cool. Sometimes I wish I did chem eng. I worked as a QCC/QCE for a while. Wanna see my lab?

Instant millionaire? I wish. What will probably happen: Countless people dump on me, tell me how dumb I am(haters hate when you do something before them that they never thought of that in hindsight is actually fairly obvious), then I do it, a few pat me on the back, then everyone else copies what I did, 10 years from now it's a "thing" and everyone forgets I ever even existed. LMAO That would be par. I don't see how I could profit here. I'm certainly not going to get into the part business. Especially parts that anyone could just call nissan to buy.
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Who said anything was "wrong" with the vq? The VQ is great. It does not have boost tho, and wasn't dressed up for boost from the factory. That's the VR. I'm not correcting anything. Why plug in aftermarket crap??? Better is subjective. If they fit, they fit. I'm just looking for an OEM route to plugging in turbos. Simple as that. The vq heads likely wont line up with the intake, and not ideal for boost. I mean, if the intake lines up then you could even use the vq heads in theory. I wouldn't run a stock vq head for boost tho. I's assume nissan dressed up the heads for boost too.

I don't know what parts you guys are looking at, but the ones im seeing all share the same core parts bin so far. Dude, it's nissan, not pagani. lol Are you familiar with the FM platform/chassis? the same chassis ALL RWD nissans have? Pretty sure the GTR also uses the same chassis.. in theory I could chop it down, and build a perfect altima from it. LMAO They did not develop a custom crankcase and block for the GTR, they just dressed it up as a "VR". Also note the factory nomenclature vQ vR. That's the thing with the GTR, its priced with exotics, but it's basically just a nissan parts bin special. FFS, they haven't even changed the powertrain in what? 15 years or something? Why do you think that is? Cause it costs too much for a failing nissan who is hanging by a thread to develop a bespoke motor or even chassis for the GTR. Lot of smoke and mirrors going on at nissan.

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vr38+vq37 = vrq75


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.....yeeeeeah... Gonna be a no. Cause no, the coolant passages don't line up. They're similar. Found a pic of each mating surface. So, no. The bolt pattern and coolant passages aren't the same. A deck plate/liners could possibly take care of the coolant passages, but that bolt pattern is all wrong.

Whole engine swap it is then. Dang it.

I had to delete and refresh everything to upload the rotated pic. For some reasson the site refuses to upload the edited version.
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Well, it was a simple question. lol I just had to answer it with facts myself. I figured was an easy one to explain for this crowd. Shrug. "No, they don't line up cause the bolt pattern is all different" would've sufficed. LMAO I was just supposed to take "no cause I said so"?? lol The size of the stud doesn't make much difference. It's easy to make threads bigger, it's making them smaller thats rough. That bolt pattern tho.. I can't think of a way around that.
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All the reputable builders are looking for ways to improve the VQ motor so if could be done, one of them would have already have tried, and/or done it
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Well, it was a simple question. lol I just had to answer it with facts myself. I figured was an easy one to explain for this crowd. Shrug. "No, they don't line up cause the bolt pattern is all different" would've sufficed. LMAO I was just supposed to take "no cause I said so"?? lol The size of the stud doesn't make much difference. It's easy to make threads bigger, it's making them smaller thats rough. That bolt pattern tho.. I can't think of a way around that.
I don't give out information anymore. If you want information, you have to pay for it. So, Troll ala la-long on out of here. You still didn't answer my question.
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He wouldn't listen. Let him find out the hard way.
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He wouldn't listen. Let him find out the hard way.
He was trolling. He acts just like a couple of others that have joined the last year or so demanding data. I don't give out data for free. Those days are over. If he thinks he is bothering me. Noop, not happening. I don't care what he does .
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He was trolling. He acts just like a couple of others that have joined the last year or so demanding data. I don't give out data for free. Those days are over. If he thinks he is bothering me. Noop, not happening. I don't care what he does .
Dude, was a genuine question. I've been here for like 5 years. My z has been under warranty, and financed so I've waited to mod it. Now that it's up, and paid off.. it's time to mod it. So, figured I'd start checking in again. ....I'm uh.. so glad I did.. It's just oh so warm, and welcoming.

You're just full of yourself. It's another fuckin' car. Not even engineered or designed in any way by you. You're painti with someone else's stencil then act like you're so brilliant. ICE auto tuning is pretty cool, but most of it is archaic, and very well explored. Based on your attitude I'd think you operated the hadron collider all day or some ish. tf Psssh. Don't get me wrong, I love my Z, and all Z's really, and I am essentially doing the same as you working from another engineers platform, but is your name Randy Rodriguez? If not,...... If it is, then.. respect. I'd hedge my bets on it's not.

Bothering you? ....lol Uh.. I don't typically give a rats azz if some rando on the interwebs is bothered by me, or isn't. Frankly.

LMAO. Ah man, it runs deep in you. So full of yourself to think this was really all about you, and "a guy talking about cars on the internet was really just trolling all along to try to bother me. Look at me, I'm so strong that I ignored him". Something along those lines? Haha. That's something there.. hoo wee. I don't have a clue what, I'm no psychologist. I could ask one for you. I think that would be narcissism? Might wanna get that looked at. I bet you're a real hoot at parties.

It's all a conspiracy bro. I was sent by qanon to troll you... cause ya know IGAF. ....sure

Or wait, qanon are the righty group huh? err.. I mean BLM* bro. You got me.:rofl 2:

No wait bro, it was antifa, yeah antifa sent me to troll you cause you're such a high profile hype beast influencer bro. You are very important, k? Better now?

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.....yeeeeeah... Gonna be a no. Cause no, the coolant passages don't line up. They're similar. Found a pic of each mating surface. So, no. The bolt pattern and coolant passages aren't the same. A deck plate/liners could possibly take care of the coolant passages, but that bolt pattern is all wrong.

Whole engine swap it is then. Dang it.

I had to delete and refresh everything to upload the rotated pic. For some reasson the site refuses to upload the edited version.
Why give up because of that? I'm sure you could drill new holes into the block. It probably hasn't been done yet, but you can do it. I'm sure everyone here is interested in how that would work out.
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Dude, was a genuine question. I've been here for like 5 years. My z has been under warranty, and financed so I've waited to mod it. Now that it's up, and paid off.. it's time to mod it. So, figured I'd start checking in again. ....I'm uh.. so glad I did.. It's just oh so warm, and welcoming.

You're just full of yourself. It's another fuckin' car. Not even engineered or designed in any way by you. You're painti with someone else's stencil then act like you're so brilliant. ICE auto tuning is pretty cool, but most of it is archaic, and very well explored. Based on your attitude I'd think you operated the hadron collider all day or some ish. tf Psssh. Don't get me wrong, I love my Z, and all Z's really, and I am essentially doing the same as you working from another engineers platform, but is your name Randy Rodriguez? If not,...... If it is, then.. respect. I'd hedge my bets on it's not.

Bothering you? ....lol Uh.. I don't typically give a rats azz if some rando on the interwebs is bothered by me, or isn't. Frankly.

LMAO. Ah man, it runs deep in you. So full of yourself to think this was really all about you, and "a guy talking about cars on the internet was really just trolling all along to try to bother me. Look at me, I'm so strong that I ignored him". Something along those lines? Haha. That's something there.. hoo wee. I don't have a clue what, I'm no psychologist. I could ask one for you. I think that would be narcissism? Might wanna get that looked at. I bet you're a real hoot at parties.

It's all a conspiracy bro. I was sent by qanon to troll you... cause ya know IGAF. ....sure

Or wait, qanon are the righty group huh? err.. I mean BLM* bro. You got me.:rofl 2:

No wait bro, it was antifa, yeah antifa sent me to troll you cause you're such a high profile hype beast influencer bro. You are very important, k? Better now?

You won't do anything. You are all mouth.
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