New Z or TT my 370?

redondoaveb · 06-23-2022, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NecioVato

I'm just wondering (not to hijack the thread) - but it seems like most people don't have many or any issues when going FI when using FI as the installer and Seb as the tuner - not to say something can't happen but it seems from watching YouTube, looking at this forum - that it seems to be mostly when people do the install themselves or use shops that aren't used to working on Nissans that problems occur.
I guess what I am getting at is - boosting the Z correctly is an expensive endeavor to begin with - but would be safer to have Fast Intentions handle it - you typically don't have a lot of issues etc?

Seb actually installed mine. I don't think FI does any of the tt installs. They'll just recommend Seb if the customer is in So Cal. Even a lot of out of state customers ship their car's to Seb for the install and of course the tune also. With Seb doing everything, you know there won't be any issues. They did a beautiful install on mine

ocfoilist · 06-23-2022, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I'm in So Cal and just registered my car. Just got to know the right people

Yeah, I was originally considering this route. I ended up chatting with FI directly about the situation, my mileage and what would be involved and it ended up being more than cost. They were really helpful on weighing the issues but leaned heavily towards the do-not-install side of things given the mileage on the car.

I am also concerned with how quickly CA is moving on tightening registration and fear that, although it may be possible at this time there could soon come a time when even "helpful" guys can't pass it. Then I either need to run illegal, tear it all out or move the family out of state...

abm89 · 06-23-2022, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

Seb actually installed mine. I don't think FI does any of the tt installs. They'll just recommend Seb if the customer is in So Cal. Even a lot of out of state customers ship their car's to Seb for the install and of course the tune also. With Seb doing everything, you know there won't be any issues. They did a beautiful install on mine

If shipping weren't so expensive, I would consider sending him my car just to have it dyno tuned. Seb is really good at what he does.

NissanZ34 · 07-07-2022, 09:49 AM

I was going through the same thoughts and I came to my senses and realized it is not worth building a 370z after putting in several grand in NA aftermarket parts. It is better to keep the Z as stock-improved and buy a higher class vehicle like a Camaro, BMW, Audi and such. It just does not make sense to spend over 15k on a vehicle that will not retain any added value.

Spooler · 07-07-2022, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NissanZ34

I was going through the same thoughts and I came to my senses and realized it is not worth building a 370z after putting in several grand in NA aftermarket parts. It is better to keep the Z as stock-improved and buy a higher class vehicle like a Camaro, BMW, Audi and such. It just does not make sense to spend over 15k on a vehicle that will not retain any added value.

The only thing that will come close to the handling of a Z is a Corvette. The front grip on a C7 Corvette is actually better. A Camaro is not even on the list.

Elmo370z · 07-07-2022, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanZ34

I was going through the same thoughts and I came to my senses and realized it is not worth building a 370z after putting in several grand in NA aftermarket parts. It is better to keep the Z as stock-improved and buy a higher class vehicle like a Camaro, BMW, Audi and such. It just does not make sense to spend over 15k on a vehicle that will not retain any added value.

Putting several grand in a NA z really does transform the car especially on the track.

NecioVato · 07-07-2022, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanZ34

I was going through the same thoughts and I came to my senses and realized it is not worth building a 370z after putting in several grand in NA aftermarket parts. It is better to keep the Z as stock-improved and buy a higher class vehicle like a Camaro, BMW, Audi and such. It just does not make sense to spend over 15k on a vehicle that will not retain any added value.

To me - there are only a few cars I would rather have over the current Z - the Supra (in MT only), the Civic Type R and then the new Z (depending on how much of a GT type of car it is).....bc cars like the GTR and a really nice Porsche just seem to be 'out of reach' even when adding $20k to the Z (as long as its PIF). I don't know - part of me is wanting to keep the current Z and make it a project car and get a 'fun daily' while the Z is down and the other part of me is like - try a new platform altogether bc any money put toward a TT kit - you won't get back.

BMW and Audis are really nice but the lack of reliability is what scares me - and Camaros are a 'no go' for me - only Chevy I would want is a Corvette haha.

SeeThruHead · 07-08-2022, 12:13 AM

You guys are nuts sleeping on the absolute track weapon that is the Camaro zl1 1le.

7:16 at the nordschleife
1:37 at Laguna Seca

as fast as a gtr or a cayman gt4, faster than a viper acr, but with a manual transmission, and it's insanely cheap for the performance.

Elmo370z · 07-08-2022, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

You guys are nuts sleeping on the absolute track weapon that is the Camaro zl1 1le.

7:16 at the nordschleife
1:37 at Laguna Seca

as fast as a gtr or a cayman gt4, faster than a viper acr, but with a manual transmission, and it's insanely cheap for the performance.

No different they spending another 30-70k in proper mods they Z is just as fast, but you don’t get the street ability as those cars above.

NecioVato · 07-08-2022, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

You guys are nuts sleeping on the absolute track weapon that is the Camaro zl1 1le.

7:16 at the nordschleife
1:37 at Laguna Seca

as fast as a gtr or a cayman gt4, faster than a viper acr, but with a manual transmission, and it's insanely cheap for the performance.

I do agree with you that stat wise - the ZL1 is an incredible machine for the price (if you can get it at a fair price in this current market); but I also have to enjoy looking at it - and while I am sure it's NOT the same - when I was in my friend's SS 1st gen - I just felt like I was in a tank - felt like there was NO visibility and the front windshield was so small (I know the Z is no picnic either but compared to the Camaro - I feel like its easier to see out of etc).

But agreed - the ZL1 is one incredible machine.

abm89 · 07-08-2022, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

You guys are nuts sleeping on the absolute track weapon that is the Camaro zl1 1le.

7:16 at the nordschleife
1:37 at Laguna Seca

as fast as a gtr or a cayman gt4, faster than a viper acr, but with a manual transmission, and it's insanely cheap for the performance.

I prefer to see where i'm going when driving.

VHRpurr · 07-09-2022, 07:59 PM

Just get a Tesla Model S Plaid. Problem solved. Lol

Spooler · 07-09-2022, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VHRpurr

Just get a Tesla Model S Plaid. Problem solved. Lol

Yuk!!!! It can go fast but can't stop for chit.

SeeThruHead · 07-09-2022, 09:15 PM

There was three zl1 1le at the track session today. And the owner and lead instructor owns a 1le as well. He even uses it for autocross. Major complaints from the owners are that tires are expensive and used up quickly. It's a damn nice looking car in person tho. Only bad visibility out the front if you're tall.

Spooler · 07-10-2022, 11:28 AM

This comes to mind about the Tesla.

07-08-2022, 12:13 AM	#53 (permalink)
SeeThruHead Track Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 716 Drives: Red '18 Sport Manual Rep Power: 23498	You guys are nuts sleeping on the absolute track weapon that is the Camaro zl1 1le. 7:16 at the nordschleife 1:37 at Laguna Seca as fast as a gtr or a cayman gt4, faster than a viper acr, but with a manual transmission, and it's insanely cheap for the performance. __________________ My Build thread STH Build Plan Thread Images too big fix here

07-09-2022, 09:15 PM	#59 (permalink)
SeeThruHead Track Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 716 Drives: Red '18 Sport Manual Rep Power: 23498	There was three zl1 1le at the track session today. And the owner and lead instructor owns a 1le as well. He even uses it for autocross. Major complaints from the owners are that tires are expensive and used up quickly. It's a damn nice looking car in person tho. Only bad visibility out the front if you're tall. __________________ My Build thread STH Build Plan Thread Images too big fix here

07-07-2022, 09:49 AM	#49 (permalink)
NissanZ34 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 92 Drives: 2010 370z 6MT Rep Power: 6	I was going through the same thoughts and I came to my senses and realized it is not worth building a 370z after putting in several grand in NA aftermarket parts. It is better to keep the Z as stock-improved and buy a higher class vehicle like a Camaro, BMW, Audi and such. It just does not make sense to spend over 15k on a vehicle that will not retain any added value.

07-09-2022, 07:59 PM	#57 (permalink)
VHRpurr Base Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Northlake, TX Posts: 75 Drives: 16 NISMO 370Z M6 Rep Power: 5	Just get a Tesla Model S Plaid. Problem solved. Lol

07-10-2022, 11:28 AM	#60 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,803 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	This comes to mind about the Tesla.