New Z or TT my 370?

ocfoilist · 06-15-2022, 03:29 AM

So I've been struggling with this one for a while. I've got an '09 Touring with about 120,000 miles in excellent condition. I've got a number of basic additions (dual exhaust, aluminum flywheel, beaded brake lines, cold air intake, hybrid clutch, oil cooler, clear bra and a few others). I also installed Brainiac tablet setup and my interior is immaculate. I am looking to either switch to the new Z or TT my 370 but after weighing pros/cons I still can't come to a clear decision.

Obviously, one way to look at it would be that I've got a 13 year old car and I should just plunk down for the new one instead of wasting money on a twin turbo setup. I am looking for something CARB legal (I live in CA) and relatively low boost for engine longevity (I would be looking for mid to high 400's). On the other hand, I'm probably looking at 60k or so with the performance trim after tax, title, license, clear bra, increased reg and insurance vs 20k or so for the TT setup. I would certainly be getting more power with the TT than with the new 400hp output and would be going with the FI stage 1 TT.

The thing is, although I have no complaints about the new Z, I really love my current 370. I'm just struggling on whether to drop 20k on a used car that I love for the hp gains or put the money toward the new one. I've taken good care of my interior and have a nice tablet setup so the "get the new one for a better interior" is less impactful for me. The new Z has the factory TT setup but at a significantly lower output so that's a mixed bag as well. I could of course just do neither and ride the current 370 into the sunset in its current condition as well but I have been looking for additional horsepower for quite some time now.

Does anyone have any constructive feedback either way?

2011 Nismo#91 · 06-15-2022, 06:43 AM

Car is 10+ years old and over 100k and you're in CA. Now if your planning on keeping the car for many more years and have taken good care of it, the years and mileage matter a whole lot less. I don't know much about CA but getting aftermarket CARB legal TT setup is pretty difficult. So I think that would be your main issue for TT vs New. Personally I am even having difficulty with my NJ inspection and my TT kit, it's always a chore getting everything in the green ECU wise to pass.

xxAGAVExx · 06-15-2022, 07:30 AM

Agree with Nismo#91 if you are planning to keep the car then go for it, but your state poses issues going aftermarket FI. I’m in a little bit of a similar situation, had my Z for 10 years just wrapping up my TT kit install, never planning to sell. Good luck with your decision

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Spooler · 06-15-2022, 09:20 AM

You are in Cali, Get the new one and save yourself headaches of having to deal your emission issues.

Spooler · 06-15-2022, 09:24 AM

You can always sell it and get a FI kit.

redondoaveb · 06-15-2022, 10:20 AM

Eugene Turkov makes a CARB legal TT kit
https://www.facebook.com/groups/vq37tt/?ref=share

babyzilla · 06-15-2022, 03:45 PM

I had a similar "dilemma." Although wasn't going FI, I decided to keep my Z and I'm glad I did for personal reasons.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about going FI on an engine with that many miles, especially in CA.

My simple answer would be to either get the new Z or any one of it's competitors...lots of great cars have been coming out

Good luck! I don't think you can go wrong.

BettyZ · 06-15-2022, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ocfoilist

So I've been struggling with this one for a while. I've got an '09 Touring with about 120,000 miles in excellent condition. I've got a number of basic additions (dual exhaust, aluminum flywheel, beaded brake lines, cold air intake, hybrid clutch, oil cooler, clear bra and a few others). I also installed Brainiac tablet setup and my interior is immaculate. I am looking to either switch to the new Z or TT my 370 but after weighing pros/cons I still can't come to a clear decision.

Obviously, one way to look at it would be that I've got a 13 year old car and I should just plunk down for the new one instead of wasting money on a twin turbo setup. I am looking for something CARB legal (I live in CA) and relatively low boost for engine longevity (I would be looking for mid to high 400's). On the other hand, I'm probably looking at 60k or so with the performance trim after tax, title, license, clear bra, increased reg and insurance vs 20k or so for the TT setup. I would certainly be getting more power with the TT than with the new 400hp output and would be going with the FI stage 1 TT.

The thing is, although I have no complaints about the new Z, I really love my current 370. I'm just struggling on whether to drop 20k on a used car that I love for the hp gains or put the money toward the new one. I've taken good care of my interior and have a nice tablet setup so the "get the new one for a better interior" is less impactful for me. The new Z has the factory TT setup but at a significantly lower output so that's a mixed bag as well. I could of course just do neither and ride the current 370 into the sunset in its current condition as well but I have been looking for additional horsepower for quite some time now.

Does anyone have any constructive feedback either way?

I would move out of CA. Failing that... TT that b*tch. Then be forced to move out of CA. It's a win-win.

ocfoilist · 06-15-2022, 05:19 PM

Yeah, I plan on taking very good care of this car and keeping it into the sunset so it would be a long-term investment. I plan to keep the boost low enough to minimize engine wear and this setup should be OK for CA. That being said, I don't know how difficult it will be in the long term to keep in CA friendly so that's always an unknown.

Having a factory TT on the new Z definitely takes away that headache but I'm not sure how much hp/torque it's going to end up getting at the wheel. Plus I would end up throwing on at least some bolt-ons if I got the new Z, which would just push the out-the-door price up even more.

NissanTracker · 06-15-2022, 05:30 PM

New body style still hasn't won me over yet. I will wait for the nismo to come out. I'll plan accordingly then. Wouldn't mind have 3 Nismos. Haha

gomer_110 · 06-15-2022, 06:31 PM

Option #3: Swap the VR30DDTT motor into your current Z.

redondoaveb · 06-15-2022, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

I would move out of CA. Failing that... TT that b*tch. Then be forced to move out of CA. It's a win-win.

There are good reasons to move out of California but smog isn't one of them. I have no problem getting my car smogged.

I certainly wouldn't move to a state where you can't drive your car 6 months out of the year due to weather just to not have to worry about smog checks

NissanTracker · 06-15-2022, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I certainly wouldn't move to a state where you can't drive your car 6 months out of the year due to weather just to not have to worry about smog checks

Can confirm... i'm in Mass. Z's are stored for 6 months of the year. Only benefit is it keeps the miles down and something to look forward to, but it's depressing

isayimandrew · 06-15-2022, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

There are good reasons to move out of California but smog isn't one of them. I have no problem getting my car smogged.

I certainly wouldn't move to a state where you can't drive your car 6 months out of the year due to weather just to not have to worry about smog checks

Or just do what most Californians are doing and move to Texas

No smog issues and similar driving year-round weather (just way hotter).

redondoaveb · 06-15-2022, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by isayimandrew

Or just do what most Californians are doing and move to Texas

No smog issues and similar driving year-round weather (just way hotter).

Texas is a great choice. I don't know if I could deal with the heat and humidity though

06-15-2022, 03:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
ocfoilist Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 202 Drives: 09 Blue 6m 370zT/S/N Rep Power: 16	New Z or TT my 370? So I've been struggling with this one for a while. I've got an '09 Touring with about 120,000 miles in excellent condition. I've got a number of basic additions (dual exhaust, aluminum flywheel, beaded brake lines, cold air intake, hybrid clutch, oil cooler, clear bra and a few others). I also installed Brainiac tablet setup and my interior is immaculate. I am looking to either switch to the new Z or TT my 370 but after weighing pros/cons I still can't come to a clear decision. Obviously, one way to look at it would be that I've got a 13 year old car and I should just plunk down for the new one instead of wasting money on a twin turbo setup. I am looking for something CARB legal (I live in CA) and relatively low boost for engine longevity (I would be looking for mid to high 400's). On the other hand, I'm probably looking at 60k or so with the performance trim after tax, title, license, clear bra, increased reg and insurance vs 20k or so for the TT setup. I would certainly be getting more power with the TT than with the new 400hp output and would be going with the FI stage 1 TT. The thing is, although I have no complaints about the new Z, I really love my current 370. I'm just struggling on whether to drop 20k on a used car that I love for the hp gains or put the money toward the new one. I've taken good care of my interior and have a nice tablet setup so the "get the new one for a better interior" is less impactful for me. The new Z has the factory TT setup but at a significantly lower output so that's a mixed bag as well. I could of course just do neither and ride the current 370 into the sunset in its current condition as well but I have been looking for additional horsepower for quite some time now. Does anyone have any constructive feedback either way? __________________ Proud owner of a new 167.2 inch, 3278 lb baby Z! Stillen CBE & G3 Intake // Stillen Lightweight pulley // Stillen Oil Cooler // Goodridge Braided Stainless Steel Brake Lines // ACT HDSS Clutch& Alum Flywheel

06-15-2022, 06:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,400 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	Car is 10+ years old and over 100k and you're in CA. Now if your planning on keeping the car for many more years and have taken good care of it, the years and mileage matter a whole lot less. I don't know much about CA but getting aftermarket CARB legal TT setup is pretty difficult. So I think that would be your main issue for TT vs New. Personally I am even having difficulty with my NJ inspection and my TT kit, it's always a chore getting everything in the green ECU wise to pass. ocfoilist and xxAGAVExx like this. __________________ GTR TT 493Whp/431lbft, Ecutek, Southbend 6puck,Quaife, RPM RollBar 4Point, R888R, JRZ RSPro F(10R/10C) R(10R/6C) 1000f500r inlbs+150inlbs Tender, SPL everywhere.Full Specs

06-15-2022, 07:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
xxAGAVExx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,036 Drives: 09 370Z BLK M6 Rep Power: 53924	Agree with Nismo#91 if you are planning to keep the car then go for it, but your state poses issues going aftermarket FI. I’m in a little bit of a similar situation, had my Z for 10 years just wrapping up my TT kit install, never planning to sell. Good luck with your decision Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ocfoilist likes this. __________________ l 09/6MT l BP Twin Turbo Kit l E-85 w/Fuel Return l FI 18" Res CF CBE l Powertrix Ultra-Lite Coilovers l Wavetrac LSD \| Lots of SPL and Carbon Fiber \|

06-15-2022, 09:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,799 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	You are in Cali, Get the new one and save yourself headaches of having to deal your emission issues. FL 4Motion, ocfoilist, xxAGAVExx and 6 others like this.

06-15-2022, 09:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,799 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	You can always sell it and get a FI kit. ocfoilist likes this.

06-15-2022, 10:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
redondoaveb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: So. Commiefornia Posts: 6,361 Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal Rep Power: 2684374	Eugene Turkov makes a CARB legal TT kit https://www.facebook.com/groups/vq37tt/?ref=share ocfoilist, JARblue, xxAGAVExx and 1 others like this. __________________ Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo 700+whp Last edited by redondoaveb; 06-15-2022 at 10:24 AM.

06-15-2022, 03:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
babyzilla Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Maryland Posts: 487 Drives: 15 Nismo Tech 6MT Rep Power: 23631	I had a similar "dilemma." Although wasn't going FI, I decided to keep my Z and I'm glad I did for personal reasons. I'm not sure how I'd feel about going FI on an engine with that many miles, especially in CA. My simple answer would be to either get the new Z or any one of it's competitors...lots of great cars have been coming out Good luck! I don't think you can go wrong. ocfoilist, xxAGAVExx, Optimiser and 1 others like this.

06-15-2022, 05:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
ocfoilist Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 202 Drives: 09 Blue 6m 370zT/S/N Rep Power: 16	Yeah, I plan on taking very good care of this car and keeping it into the sunset so it would be a long-term investment. I plan to keep the boost low enough to minimize engine wear and this setup should be OK for CA. That being said, I don't know how difficult it will be in the long term to keep in CA friendly so that's always an unknown. Having a factory TT on the new Z definitely takes away that headache but I'm not sure how much hp/torque it's going to end up getting at the wheel. Plus I would end up throwing on at least some bolt-ons if I got the new Z, which would just push the out-the-door price up even more. BettyZ likes this. __________________ Proud owner of a new 167.2 inch, 3278 lb baby Z! Stillen CBE & G3 Intake // Stillen Lightweight pulley // Stillen Oil Cooler // Goodridge Braided Stainless Steel Brake Lines // ACT HDSS Clutch& Alum Flywheel

06-15-2022, 05:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
NissanTracker Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 724 Drives: 07' Nismo, 14' Nismo Rep Power: 29262	New body style still hasn't won me over yet. I will wait for the nismo to come out. I'll plan accordingly then. Wouldn't mind have 3 Nismos. Haha ocfoilist, 370Z944 and BettyZ like this.

06-15-2022, 06:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	Option #3: Swap the VR30DDTT motor into your current Z. ocfoilist, babyzilla and 370Z944 like this. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock